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Also your address, which is surprisingly useful in predicting likely outcomes (even if the range of outcomes in a neighborhood are wide at the extremes).
by csa 5y ago
Also your address, which is surprisingly useful in predicting likely outcomes (even if the range of outcomes in a neighborhood are wide at the extremes).
- rolleiflex 5y agoIt really is depressing just how much information, from life expectancy to health outcomes, can be gathered from a simple five digit zip code. Very accurate too.
- tshaddox 5y agoInsurance companies apparently seem to think it’s useful, but I find it extremely hard to believe it would be more useful than, say, even the most basic information about one’s driving behavior, like whether one drives 1,000 miles a year or 50,000.
- riffraff 5y agoI don't think that'd be less useful, but they can't trust what you say: "sure, I only drive very little, very carefully, and very slowly" is not something they can check. If they can, they'll use it: that is why black box car insurance exists.
- SilasX 5y agoIf you’re just going by mileage count, you can look at the odometer.
- samtho 5y agoThey mostly deal with numbers on the macro scale. If 10,000 miles per year is a good representation of how much the general populous drives, it’s good enough for them. This is why we’re seeing more niche insurance companies pop up (MetroMile, et al) who can offer “smarter” rates based on a more granular assessment of risk.
- SilasX 5y agoAll else equal a driver who does 5000 miles a year will have half the adverse events of Someone driving 10,000 miles/year. That’s a huge difference that makes no sense of lump together. And yet only a few (non-commercial) insurers, like metromile, account for it. It makes no sense.
- tomp 5y agoI also think the simpler the algorithm, the harder it is to game. “Oh wait, I almost never drive, but when I do, I’m either drunk or speeding. Well, I’ll sign up with this insurance company which offers me a discount because I drive so little!”
- gbear605 5y agoMy car insurance definitely asks for that sort of information, so I’m not sure why yours doesn’t.
- tshaddox 5y agoThey do ask it, but it doesn’t affect the rates and they don’t have any way of verifying how much I actually drive.
- chiph 5y agoThey're not "supposed" to do that (at least in the US) because the practice of Redlining was made illegal by the Fair Housing Act of 1968. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining https://web.archive.org/web/20170317143050/https://fairhousing.com/resources/history-insurance-redlining https://web.archive.org/web/20170317143050/https://fairhousi...