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> School choice effectively allows increased wages for good teachers and yes there's competition so you'll have lower end schools as well. How does school choi

> School choice effectively allows increased wages for good teachers and yes there's competition so you'll have lower end schools as well. How does school choice allow for increased teacher wages? Presumably they get the same per-student funding. When the school gets more applicants than places, how does it decide who to let in? > You can also audit the schools and shutdown poorly run ones, etc. Shutting down schools is highly disruptive for students currently attending that school. Seems preferable to intervene and improve failing schools before it gets to the point of shutting them down. I'm not convinced school choice improves results for students overall. The easiest way for a school to improve its results are by attracting parents who are highly invested in their child's education. Those whose parents don't have the knowledge to work the system or the time to transport their children across town for school every day are less likely to apply.

ByteJockey 5y ago
> How does school choice allow for increased teacher wages? Presumably they get the same per-student funding. The raw number of dollars per pupil isn't the only variable here, if it were the US would already have the best schools pretty much everywhere (the US spends WAY more than the average in this category). There's also what percentage is spent on administrators instead of teachers (frees up money for teacher salaries), various QoL improvements that could be made such as less paperwork, more latitude in how they teach, hiring a few full-time graders to take some of the load off teachers (generally a big time-sink and a source of a lot of overtime for teachers). > When the school gets more applicants than places, how does it decide who to let in? Presumably either entrance exam or lottery depending on the philosophy of the school. > Seems preferable to intervene and improve failing schools before it gets to the point of shutting them down. Do we know how to do this in practice? I haven't heard of any tactics that reliably improve a school that has started going downhill, but if you have some examples, I'd definitely be willing to consider them.

ByteJockey 5y ago

> How does school choice allow for increased teacher wages? Presumably they get the same per-student funding. The raw number of dollars per pupil isn't the only variable here, if it were the US would already have the best schools pretty much everywhere (the US spends WAY more than the average in this category). There's also what percentage is spent on administrators instead of teachers (frees up money for teacher salaries), various QoL improvements that could be made such as less paperwork, more latitude in how they teach, hiring a few full-time graders to take some of the load off teachers (generally a big time-sink and a source of a lot of overtime for teachers). > When the school gets more applicants than places, how does it decide who to let in? Presumably either entrance exam or lottery depending on the philosophy of the school. > Seems preferable to intervene and improve failing schools before it gets to the point of shutting them down. Do we know how to do this in practice? I haven't heard of any tactics that reliably improve a school that has started going downhill, but if you have some examples, I'd definitely be willing to consider them.