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With regard to the source control for recipes, I've been trying to get an StackExchange/Reddit sort of thing for recipes that includes some wiki editing off the

With regard to the source control for recipes, I've been trying to get an StackExchange/Reddit sort of thing for recipes that includes some wiki editing off the ground for a year and a half. Haven't had much success, but working on version 3 in my spare time now. Maybe with a nicer design (a real logo) and a core written in Zend as opposed to Cake things will pick up speed more. Here's the current version: http://www.fridgetofood.com http://www.fridgetofood.com

tansey 15y ago
Cool idea and nice looking site! I think the reason why Github is a better model than reddit is because of the developer-centric model of Github. I use Github because it's how I manage my own code-- it's first and foremost about me. The social aspect of it is what makes it go viral when a cool library is pushed, but that's a vitamin, not a painkiller. With reddit, it's more of a nail-biting, "gosh I hope people like this" sort of model. Its focus is on the community and a link is a temporary (usually < 1 day) talking point for people. I think chefs treasure their recipes and carry them around for life. They know what they like and they're happy to experiment/learn from others, but it's mostly about mastering their own skills and creating their own recipes.
- aero142 15y ago
  For Reddit, a person can evaluate the quality of an article very quick and simple democracy pushes it to the top. Also, once I have read the article, I usually don't care to ever see it again. With recipes, it takes longer to evaluate, so the credibility of the person recommending it has more weight. Also, when I find a recipe I like, I want to keep it for life. "Browse Emeril's recipes" sounds like a site I want to see. (This may be exactly what you were saying, not sure)
  - dbingham 15y ago
    Well, Fridge to Food attaches a StackExchange style reputation to people (that carries more weight than reddit karma) and does have a page where you can see user's recipes (similar to SO). Really it pulls more inspiration from StackExchange than it does from Reddit.
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- dbingham 15y ago
  Thanks! Yeah, I think I see what you're saying. It isn't implemented yet, but community editing of recipes is an idea I've been playing with. There will be community/wiki style tagging of them -- and wiki editing of ingredient and tag information as well. But since the site is reputation based, I'm hesitant to allow wiki editing of the recipes themselves. I've been playing with ideas related to a variant system -- that could be similar to your source control/github idea -- where you can link your variant recipe to it's inspiration and point out the changes you made. Of course, none of these ideas will take shape until I get the base code rewritten in ZF.
revorad 15y ago
Looks nice! For recipes that you don't have any pictures of yet, seeing the site logo is really confusing. Why don't you instead show a generic icon/clipart image for the class of food (a cup of soup for soups) or pull something in from google images or flickr?
NinetyNine 15y ago
I entered a 48 hour startup competition with source control for recipes. I won 3rd out of 8 or so teams, mainly because I didn't have a good strategy to penetrate the market (massive competitors like All Recipes, or branded ones like Betty Crocker hold the stage now). Everyone loved the concept though, and combining it with an Ingredients->Mobile Grocery List would be useful for just about every one. I suppose if anyone's interested, I'd be willing to carry the idea further. I'm a technical guy, with experience in RoR and NodeJS and Android, although I'd love to explore the business side of things more.
Joakal 15y ago
I've had this recipes based on what you have in your kitchen idea for many years. I made an awful looking prototype in 2006 to which my sister introduced me to competitors: supercook.com and a few others that have the same concept. So now I decided I'm going in different directions but still have the aim to have a large open storage of recipes and food. Sadly, I don't have my website up yet since I had to make architectural decisions to accommodate massive data input for example. You and me have the biggest problem: chicken and egg. :D Tip: If you're going to use random recipes as frontpage, try not to show them without pictures as it makes your website looks incomplete/tacky.
- dbingham 15y ago
  Good call. I'd had it default to newest queue for the front page. But most people who arrive probably aren't going to be interested in the newest recipes, but rather the best recipes. Made the change. Yeah, we do have the same problem pretty much. It's definitely a chicken and egg thing. That's why I demoted it from startup to side project and got a job. There's way too much competition and there's too much of a chicken and egg problem for one guy to make this fly.
SebMortelmans 15y ago
Anyone interested in building this with me? I'm a intermediate Rails developer but pretty good at design and front-end stuff..

tansey 15y ago

Cool idea and nice looking site! I think the reason why Github is a better model than reddit is because of the developer-centric model of Github. I use Github because it's how I manage my own code-- it's first and foremost about me. The social aspect of it is what makes it go viral when a cool library is pushed, but that's a vitamin, not a painkiller. With reddit, it's more of a nail-biting, "gosh I hope people like this" sort of model. Its focus is on the community and a link is a temporary (usually < 1 day) talking point for people. I think chefs treasure their recipes and carry them around for life. They know what they like and they're happy to experiment/learn from others, but it's mostly about mastering their own skills and creating their own recipes.

aero142 15y ago
For Reddit, a person can evaluate the quality of an article very quick and simple democracy pushes it to the top. Also, once I have read the article, I usually don't care to ever see it again. With recipes, it takes longer to evaluate, so the credibility of the person recommending it has more weight. Also, when I find a recipe I like, I want to keep it for life. "Browse Emeril's recipes" sounds like a site I want to see. (This may be exactly what you were saying, not sure)
- dbingham 15y ago
  Well, Fridge to Food attaches a StackExchange style reputation to people (that carries more weight than reddit karma) and does have a page where you can see user's recipes (similar to SO). Really it pulls more inspiration from StackExchange than it does from Reddit.
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dbingham 15y ago
Thanks! Yeah, I think I see what you're saying. It isn't implemented yet, but community editing of recipes is an idea I've been playing with. There will be community/wiki style tagging of them -- and wiki editing of ingredient and tag information as well. But since the site is reputation based, I'm hesitant to allow wiki editing of the recipes themselves. I've been playing with ideas related to a variant system -- that could be similar to your source control/github idea -- where you can link your variant recipe to it's inspiration and point out the changes you made. Of course, none of these ideas will take shape until I get the base code rewritten in ZF.

revorad 15y ago

Looks nice! For recipes that you don't have any pictures of yet, seeing the site logo is really confusing. Why don't you instead show a generic icon/clipart image for the class of food (a cup of soup for soups) or pull something in from google images or flickr?

NinetyNine 15y ago

I entered a 48 hour startup competition with source control for recipes. I won 3rd out of 8 or so teams, mainly because I didn't have a good strategy to penetrate the market (massive competitors like All Recipes, or branded ones like Betty Crocker hold the stage now). Everyone loved the concept though, and combining it with an Ingredients->Mobile Grocery List would be useful for just about every one. I suppose if anyone's interested, I'd be willing to carry the idea further. I'm a technical guy, with experience in RoR and NodeJS and Android, although I'd love to explore the business side of things more.

Joakal 15y ago

I've had this recipes based on what you have in your kitchen idea for many years. I made an awful looking prototype in 2006 to which my sister introduced me to competitors: supercook.com and a few others that have the same concept. So now I decided I'm going in different directions but still have the aim to have a large open storage of recipes and food. Sadly, I don't have my website up yet since I had to make architectural decisions to accommodate massive data input for example. You and me have the biggest problem: chicken and egg. :D Tip: If you're going to use random recipes as frontpage, try not to show them without pictures as it makes your website looks incomplete/tacky.

dbingham 15y ago
Good call. I'd had it default to newest queue for the front page. But most people who arrive probably aren't going to be interested in the newest recipes, but rather the best recipes. Made the change. Yeah, we do have the same problem pretty much. It's definitely a chicken and egg thing. That's why I demoted it from startup to side project and got a job. There's way too much competition and there's too much of a chicken and egg problem for one guy to make this fly.

SebMortelmans 15y ago

Anyone interested in building this with me? I'm a intermediate Rails developer but pretty good at design and front-end stuff..