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> If someone died because of a "Take Ivermectin and you'll survive COVID" video on YouTube, who's to blame? Ivermectin is a prescription drug in the United Sta

> If someone died because of a "Take Ivermectin and you'll survive COVID" video on YouTube, who's to blame? Ivermectin is a prescription drug in the United States. A doctor would most likely reject the request if a patient asked for it solely on a YouTube recommendation. So to answer your question, a prescribing doctor. IMO YouTube isn't medically qualified to censor ongoing research or debate, just stick a disclaimer and be done with it.

ryantgtg 5y ago
You can (or could until recently?) get topical ivermectin from pet stores, no prescription. Humans use it to self-diagnose and self-treat rosacea. So there is the risk that people will buy and ingest it.
- jsight 5y ago
  That risk is not reduced by suppression.
  - void_mint 5y ago
    You're suggesting that reducing awareness won't reduce abuse? That seems impossible.
unparagoned 5y ago
Bret implied he got it from a potentially dodgy source. He was also pointing out "risks" with the vaccine. Even in comments you had people saying they were going to avoid the vaccine and take this drug instead.
- acituan 5y ago
  > He was also pointing out "risks" with the vaccine. Whoa whoa whoa. 1 year old mRNA vaccine's risks don't come with scare quotes. He often talks about the lack of long term data. mRNA covid vaccines might have been exceptionally safe so far, yet intellectual honesty demands we admit that indeed we don't have the long term data yet. Implying there would absolutely be no such risk is a fundamentalistic position itself.
  - unparagoned 5y ago
    There is a "risk" that bill Gates is actually an alien and has been putting microchips into the vaccine. Pretty much all risks are identified within a short period, it's very rare for there to be long term risks.So yes there may be some theoretical long term risk, but it's soo small that it is misleading to talk about it as a serious risk. Expecially compared to the real and known dangers of Ivermectin and covid.
    - acituan 5y ago
      > There is a "risk" that bill Gates is actually an alien and has been putting microchips into the vaccine. Do those risks look proportional to you? > Pretty much all risks are identified within a short period, it's very rare for there to be long term risks I am not aware of any first principles in immunology that evidence this view. Maybe you do?
void_mint 5y ago
> IMO YouTube isn't medically qualified to censor ongoing research or debate, just stick a disclaimer and be done with it. Youtube is qualified to say "This use of this drug is unresearched/unproven by the sources we build guidelines around", as are all private companies.
rossjudson 5y ago
Must be a bunch of idiots working over there on YouTube, huh? Sounds like you have some inside knowledge about Google's resourcing of and attention paid to the COVID epidemic worldwide.

ryantgtg 5y ago

You can (or could until recently?) get topical ivermectin from pet stores, no prescription. Humans use it to self-diagnose and self-treat rosacea. So there is the risk that people will buy and ingest it.

jsight 5y ago
That risk is not reduced by suppression.
- void_mint 5y ago
  You're suggesting that reducing awareness won't reduce abuse? That seems impossible.

unparagoned 5y ago

Bret implied he got it from a potentially dodgy source. He was also pointing out "risks" with the vaccine. Even in comments you had people saying they were going to avoid the vaccine and take this drug instead.

acituan 5y ago
> He was also pointing out "risks" with the vaccine. Whoa whoa whoa. 1 year old mRNA vaccine's risks don't come with scare quotes. He often talks about the lack of long term data. mRNA covid vaccines might have been exceptionally safe so far, yet intellectual honesty demands we admit that indeed we don't have the long term data yet. Implying there would absolutely be no such risk is a fundamentalistic position itself.
- unparagoned 5y ago
  There is a "risk" that bill Gates is actually an alien and has been putting microchips into the vaccine. Pretty much all risks are identified within a short period, it's very rare for there to be long term risks.So yes there may be some theoretical long term risk, but it's soo small that it is misleading to talk about it as a serious risk. Expecially compared to the real and known dangers of Ivermectin and covid.
  - acituan 5y ago
    > There is a "risk" that bill Gates is actually an alien and has been putting microchips into the vaccine. Do those risks look proportional to you? > Pretty much all risks are identified within a short period, it's very rare for there to be long term risks I am not aware of any first principles in immunology that evidence this view. Maybe you do?

void_mint 5y ago

> IMO YouTube isn't medically qualified to censor ongoing research or debate, just stick a disclaimer and be done with it. Youtube is qualified to say "This use of this drug is unresearched/unproven by the sources we build guidelines around", as are all private companies.

rossjudson 5y ago

Must be a bunch of idiots working over there on YouTube, huh? Sounds like you have some inside knowledge about Google's resourcing of and attention paid to the COVID epidemic worldwide.