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(disclaimer: I work in a climate&energy group) I personally wish they would just continue selling gas cars, but with a lifetime fuel emissions offset built int

(disclaimer: I work in a climate&energy group) I personally wish they would just continue selling gas cars, but with a lifetime fuel emissions offset built into the price. That would rapidly improve the maturity of carbon offset markets, which is needed for decarbonization across many industries (not just automotive) and has been slow going. Random math: 200e3miles/(30miles/gallon)*8.89kg/gallon*$100/(1000kg) ~= $6000

Gibbon1 5y ago
That's my opinion too. Excise taxes on gas cars are better than carbon taxes applied to gasoline and diesel. Because what you want is people to stop buying gas cars, not revenue. Bonus can use the excise tax revenue to fund buyback and down payment assistance programs. Helping someone replace their older gas car with a new(er) electric also results on a lot less political blow back than raising the gas tax.
- ganoushoreilly 5y ago
  There's also dealing with the issue of federal and state losses from taxes from fuel, these will need to be offset. Between state and federal, it's anywhere from .40c or more per gallon in taxes now lost. That's money put towards roads and maintenance (somewhere). I imagine we're going to end up seeing a mileage use tax on EV's as well.
  - Gibbon1 5y ago
    One of my side thoughts is ordinary people drive a lot more than they want to. The reason being is we don't ding businesses and housing developers directly for the commuter traffic they generate. Instead we focus on cars MPG and not on workplaces forcing their workers into 50-100 mile commutes. You end up with the bosses live five minutes away from work (convenient). And their employees live 30-50 miles away. And the boss never sees that cost on the corporate balance sheet.
elif 5y ago
Why would it make sense for audi to continue selling gas cars due to a surcharge? Presumably it is already not economically viable already

Gibbon1 5y ago

That's my opinion too. Excise taxes on gas cars are better than carbon taxes applied to gasoline and diesel. Because what you want is people to stop buying gas cars, not revenue. Bonus can use the excise tax revenue to fund buyback and down payment assistance programs. Helping someone replace their older gas car with a new(er) electric also results on a lot less political blow back than raising the gas tax.

ganoushoreilly 5y ago
There's also dealing with the issue of federal and state losses from taxes from fuel, these will need to be offset. Between state and federal, it's anywhere from .40c or more per gallon in taxes now lost. That's money put towards roads and maintenance (somewhere). I imagine we're going to end up seeing a mileage use tax on EV's as well.
- Gibbon1 5y ago
  One of my side thoughts is ordinary people drive a lot more than they want to. The reason being is we don't ding businesses and housing developers directly for the commuter traffic they generate. Instead we focus on cars MPG and not on workplaces forcing their workers into 50-100 mile commutes. You end up with the bosses live five minutes away from work (convenient). And their employees live 30-50 miles away. And the boss never sees that cost on the corporate balance sheet.

elif 5y ago

Why would it make sense for audi to continue selling gas cars due to a surcharge? Presumably it is already not economically viable already