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> Jeez, anyone could buy a security camera that recorded on a loop for a few hundred. It probably isn't that easy, at least for the runways. Remember that Uber

by josefx 5y ago

> Jeez, anyone could buy a security camera that recorded on a loop for a few hundred. It probably isn't that easy, at least for the runways. Remember that Uber crash where they tried to convince everyone that the cyclist was near impossible to see? The dash cam used to record that video was standard, but also completely unable to handle even a well lit road at night. Good cameras and the weather proofing they need out in the open (they should still work after a snow storm) will cost a lot more, probably not infeasible but still a decent amount of cash.

dwild 5y ago
> the weather proofing they need out in the open He suggest to put one in the tower. There's no need to weather proof anything, or else poor controllers ;). In theory the tower see the runways well enough, or else the airport isn't well designed and the tower doesn't fill its own purpose. > The dash cam used to record that video was standard, but also completely unable to handle even a well lit road at night. Weren't we still able to see the cyclist? Weren't we able to boost the contrast to see her even better? Sorry for the sarcasm, but even the worst camera show more than no camera at all... You can't argue that seeing a cyclist badly is worse than not seeing that same cyclist at all. All it takes is a 100$ camera and you would get so much more evidence.
RogerL 5y ago
These cameras are everywhere. I've been doing this stuff in one way or another since 2008 or so. Did it for the Air Force (mounted on the tower) and for more commercial applications. It's a solved problem, and it is not particularly expensive. Surely you've seen CCTV or other cameras in an outdoor enclosure before? You are being tracked from parking lot to boarding in some airports. We can put a few cameras up to watch the runways and taxiways. https://airportimprovement.com/article/new-camera-system-enables-jacksonville-int-l-track-passengers-parking-garage-tarmac https://airportimprovement.com/article/new-camera-system-ena...

by josefx 5y ago

dwild 5y ago

> the weather proofing they need out in the open He suggest to put one in the tower. There's no need to weather proof anything, or else poor controllers ;). In theory the tower see the runways well enough, or else the airport isn't well designed and the tower doesn't fill its own purpose. > The dash cam used to record that video was standard, but also completely unable to handle even a well lit road at night. Weren't we still able to see the cyclist? Weren't we able to boost the contrast to see her even better? Sorry for the sarcasm, but even the worst camera show more than no camera at all... You can't argue that seeing a cyclist badly is worse than not seeing that same cyclist at all. All it takes is a 100$ camera and you would get so much more evidence.

RogerL 5y ago

These cameras are everywhere. I've been doing this stuff in one way or another since 2008 or so. Did it for the Air Force (mounted on the tower) and for more commercial applications. It's a solved problem, and it is not particularly expensive. Surely you've seen CCTV or other cameras in an outdoor enclosure before? You are being tracked from parking lot to boarding in some airports. We can put a few cameras up to watch the runways and taxiways. https://airportimprovement.com/article/new-camera-system-enables-jacksonville-int-l-track-passengers-parking-garage-tarmac https://airportimprovement.com/article/new-camera-system-ena...