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> Two things any user, no matter their tech-savviness, has needed in a browser. A wide Address bar to see exactly where they are, which webpage it’s loaded, the

> Two things any user, no matter their tech-savviness, has needed in a browser. A wide Address bar to see exactly where they are, which webpage it’s loaded, the whole URL This is clearly wrong and brings the judgement of the author into question. People care that they are on "Facebook", "Google", "Youtube". They are not remembering that a stupid cat video belongs to URL: ?v=X2KsttcwC04

rswail 5y ago
Oh man, you had a classic opportunity, surely you should have quoted ?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
ballballball 5y ago
That’s like… just your opinion man. Maybe some people like to see the whole URL. I kinda do. There might be others.
- threeseed 5y ago
  I take it you skipped past the, "any user, no matter their tech-savviness" part.
- Retr0id 5y ago
  99% of HN users want to see the full URL, myself included. However, we only care because we know what a URL is, and what the different components mean. The average user doesn't understand the intricacies of URLs, nor should they have to. Parsing URLs unambiguously is hard even for programmers, and has been the source of numerous security vulnerabilities. I think there should always be an option to show the full URL bar, but I can't really argue for it being the default behavior anymore.
mathewsanders 5y ago
I was looking forward to a good cat video but just got the message “This video is unavailable.” What a tease!
bluedino 5y ago
Surprised browsers haven’t just removed the address bar, it’s almost useless now.
bovine3dom 5y ago
It's especially jarring combined with the next point: "A proper Tab bar, with as much horizontal space as possible, to be able to open a lot of tabs and read at least a small part of their titles." Which suggests ignorance of vertical tabs. I'm wondering if the author hasn't spent much time with the long tail of tech-savvy users. The emphasis added to "any" is unfortunate. A fair chunk of Tridactyl users hide the address bar; I find I very rarely need to know that information.

rswail 5y ago

Oh man, you had a classic opportunity, surely you should have quoted ?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

ballballball 5y ago

That’s like… just your opinion man. Maybe some people like to see the whole URL. I kinda do. There might be others.

threeseed 5y ago
I take it you skipped past the, "any user, no matter their tech-savviness" part.
Retr0id 5y ago
99% of HN users want to see the full URL, myself included. However, we only care because we know what a URL is, and what the different components mean. The average user doesn't understand the intricacies of URLs, nor should they have to. Parsing URLs unambiguously is hard even for programmers, and has been the source of numerous security vulnerabilities. I think there should always be an option to show the full URL bar, but I can't really argue for it being the default behavior anymore.

mathewsanders 5y ago

I was looking forward to a good cat video but just got the message “This video is unavailable.” What a tease!

bluedino 5y ago

Surprised browsers haven’t just removed the address bar, it’s almost useless now.

bovine3dom 5y ago

It's especially jarring combined with the next point: "A proper Tab bar, with as much horizontal space as possible, to be able to open a lot of tabs and read at least a small part of their titles." Which suggests ignorance of vertical tabs. I'm wondering if the author hasn't spent much time with the long tail of tech-savvy users. The emphasis added to "any" is unfortunate. A fair chunk of Tridactyl users hide the address bar; I find I very rarely need to know that information.