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> There’s nothing worrying about that. You get tons of apps installed without consent (including whatever spam your network provider pushes on you). That is di

by sildur 5y ago

> There’s nothing worrying about that. You get tons of apps installed without consent (including whatever spam your network provider pushes on you). That is different. They are pre-installed and I can list them and disable them. They do not install suddenly by themselves months after buying the device. If they did so, there would be an outrage. > This app can actually save lives without sacrificing any privacy, pushing it to users is something that has no drawbacks. Yeah, "for our own good". Next time it would be an app that sends an alarm when an excon is near you. And next time it would be an app that sends an alarm when someone who shows dangerous opinions (ie. against government) is near you. No thanks, please unsubscribe me of this Chinese dystopia.

kuschku 5y ago
> They do not install suddenly by themselves months after buying the device. If they did so, there would be an outrage. They absolute can do that, and do that. For example, if you switch SIM cards, the phone can (and in some situations will) install whatever crap the ISP chooses. In my case, inserting a SIM card from ALDI’s carrier used to auto-install some weather, news, and similar stuff. Luckily that stopped recently. This can happen at any time, actually. > Yeah, "for our own good". Sometimes it is actually for your own good. I agree that it can be a slippery slope, but using the available means to save lives is sometimes necessary. The only risk is governments not returning the power they got during this pandemic, but that’s more of a worry in 3rd-world-dictatorships.
- sildur 5y ago
  > In my case, inserting a SIM card from ALDI’s carrier used to auto-install some weather, news, and similar stuff. Luckily that stopped recently. Surely there is a prompt. I never had apps silently auto-install in my phone. If that is true, one more reason to go with the custom rom way. > The only risk is governments not returning the power they got during this pandemic, but that’s more of a worry in 3rd-world-dictatorships. In my life I've seen a lot of just-for-emergency-temporary-only laws that become permanent once the outrage subsides. In supposedly first world countries
  - kuschku 5y ago
    > Surely there is a prompt. I never had apps silently auto-install in my phone. If that is true, one more reason to go with the custom rom way. Nope, Google Play Services does this all in the background. The same happens if Google thinks you’ve reinstalled your device (e.g. by wiping the Play Services data) and it starts installing some of Google’s default apps again, without prompts
- bool3max 5y ago
  > but that’s more of a worry in 3rd-world-dictatorships To be this delusional, it must feel great.

by sildur 5y ago

kuschku 5y ago

> They do not install suddenly by themselves months after buying the device. If they did so, there would be an outrage. They absolute can do that, and do that. For example, if you switch SIM cards, the phone can (and in some situations will) install whatever crap the ISP chooses. In my case, inserting a SIM card from ALDI’s carrier used to auto-install some weather, news, and similar stuff. Luckily that stopped recently. This can happen at any time, actually. > Yeah, "for our own good". Sometimes it is actually for your own good. I agree that it can be a slippery slope, but using the available means to save lives is sometimes necessary. The only risk is governments not returning the power they got during this pandemic, but that’s more of a worry in 3rd-world-dictatorships.

sildur 5y ago
> In my case, inserting a SIM card from ALDI’s carrier used to auto-install some weather, news, and similar stuff. Luckily that stopped recently. Surely there is a prompt. I never had apps silently auto-install in my phone. If that is true, one more reason to go with the custom rom way. > The only risk is governments not returning the power they got during this pandemic, but that’s more of a worry in 3rd-world-dictatorships. In my life I've seen a lot of just-for-emergency-temporary-only laws that become permanent once the outrage subsides. In supposedly first world countries
- kuschku 5y ago
  > Surely there is a prompt. I never had apps silently auto-install in my phone. If that is true, one more reason to go with the custom rom way. Nope, Google Play Services does this all in the background. The same happens if Google thinks you’ve reinstalled your device (e.g. by wiping the Play Services data) and it starts installing some of Google’s default apps again, without prompts
bool3max 5y ago
> but that’s more of a worry in 3rd-world-dictatorships To be this delusional, it must feel great.