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"Bitter cripple", as the author describes it, seems like an inversion of "bitter incel" in that the "bitter cripple" is angered by the special treatment their d

"Bitter cripple", as the author describes it, seems like an inversion of "bitter incel" in that the "bitter cripple" is angered by the special treatment their disability draws from people, and the "bitter incel" is angered by their perception that nobody views them as romantic candidates. One is about freedom to be a generic stranger, one is about the opportunity to be special to somebody (viewed generously).

ZephyrBlu 5y ago
I interpreted it in the opposite light. To me, it sounds like the author is angry that people perceive disabled people as being worth less than able people. I see this as being in line with the experience of incels because their perceived worth is so low that no woman wants to be with them.
- trashtester 5y ago
  I would expect that a relatively large percentage of disabled people are also incels, and that being an incel may be one of the more challenging consequences of being disabled. I wonder how the experience of these disabled incels compare to people who are incels for other reasons.
  - indymike 5y ago
    My Dad had MS, lost leg function, and as a result we had a huge number of family friends who were disabled. The surprising part was how many had a significant other. There's an interesting phenomena: disabled persons value companionship and on many cases having a companion is necessary for survival. On the flip side there is something innately human about serving others. The level of sacrifice was huge, and that was often offset by the level of gratitude and appreciation. I'm sure there's a little self-selection bias in my sample, but to assume involuntary celibacy is rampant on disabled people is just a bad assumption.
  - cracker-news 5y ago
    Nah, I guarantee you the average HN poster has 10x the incel qualities compared to an average disabled person, who by virtue of their experience are probably profoundly more mature than the eugenics-minded dimwits here.

ZephyrBlu 5y ago

I interpreted it in the opposite light. To me, it sounds like the author is angry that people perceive disabled people as being worth less than able people. I see this as being in line with the experience of incels because their perceived worth is so low that no woman wants to be with them.

trashtester 5y ago
I would expect that a relatively large percentage of disabled people are also incels, and that being an incel may be one of the more challenging consequences of being disabled. I wonder how the experience of these disabled incels compare to people who are incels for other reasons.
- indymike 5y ago
  My Dad had MS, lost leg function, and as a result we had a huge number of family friends who were disabled. The surprising part was how many had a significant other. There's an interesting phenomena: disabled persons value companionship and on many cases having a companion is necessary for survival. On the flip side there is something innately human about serving others. The level of sacrifice was huge, and that was often offset by the level of gratitude and appreciation. I'm sure there's a little self-selection bias in my sample, but to assume involuntary celibacy is rampant on disabled people is just a bad assumption.
- cracker-news 5y ago
  Nah, I guarantee you the average HN poster has 10x the incel qualities compared to an average disabled person, who by virtue of their experience are probably profoundly more mature than the eugenics-minded dimwits here.