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> Where can I find these streams now? I'm asking the exact same thing. For some reason at least the European national tax/license-paid broadcasters that I have

• chrisseaton 5y ago
  > I'm asking the exact same thing. Lol well then why give it an example of the BBC backward if nobody else was doing it? Nobody else had a time machine either. Why are you giving them a hard time over it?
  • tpmx 5y ago
    I'm giving European national radio broadcasters in general a hard time because the have chosen not to prioritize public access to old radio broadcasts that the public in those countries already paid for. There is a clear pattern that simply does not make sense (unless there's systematic corruption or mismanagement).
    • chrisseaton 5y ago
      > that the public in those countries already paid for But they presumably didn't pay for streaming rights and for contracts with streaming residuals - isn't that the point? Isn't that the whole problem? Otherwise... they'd be streaming them.
      • tpmx 5y ago
        That's what I've been trying to say. Most radio programs made by European national broadcasters are fully financed by themselves. Programs containing music is a separate story, of course. Nevertheless, I've haven't seen a European broadcaster that has a reasonable ~20 year archive of their own news/political analysis/etc shows online. (Perhaps one exists, though?) They point is that they have had 20+ years to figure this out, and they typically haven't. My understanding is that this kind of content is available for a year and then removed.
        • chrisseaton 5y ago
          > Most radio programs made by European national broadcasters are fully financed by themselves ... Nevertheless ... Fully financing something doesn't say anything about the contract you agreed and the terms of residuals for your talent and other resources you used. If you didn't agree a residual for 'streaming', which you were unlikely to do until maybe 2007 or so, then 'fully financing' it would not help you.
          • tpmx 5y ago
            That's the part they have had 20 years to figure out.
            • chrisseaton 5y ago
              Nobody was expecting streaming to be the main way we consumed content back in 2001. You're using that time machine again.
              • tpmx 5y ago
                So that time machine explains how I can't listen to e.g. news or political analysis broadcasts from say 2016 from a public broadcaster in a typical European country, in 2021?
                • chrisseaton 5y ago
                  Well where did you get 20 years from? What happened in 2001?
                  • tpmx 5y ago
                    I'm ending this here. This is clearly not going anywhere that's meaningful.
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