4 ms·

That made me laugh. Can people treat such people seriously when they obviously aren't? Dumb, aggressive promotion is characteristic of "trendy hipster projects

That made me laugh. Can people treat such people seriously when they obviously aren't? Dumb, aggressive promotion is characteristic of "trendy hipster projects" usually abandoned once the "cred" harvest is finished, and people involved go on.

bombela 5y ago
It's both funny and true at the same time. I used to advertise my worth in how good my C++ is. Until I had a dumb after free error after git merging two adjacent line in the wrong order. A simple vector push done after capturing vector.begin instead of before. Nobody saw that in code review. Even reviews from C++ experts at the company. Of course it took 6 months until the first segfault. Invalidating 6 months of work. Rust would have not compiled. As simple as that. Now imagine if you could write code without living in fear of making everything blow up because of a single moment of weakness. That's Rust for me.
- saagarjha 5y ago
  > Invalidating 6 months of work. What kind of system was this where a bug would literally invalidate all results from the moment it was introduced?
  - grumblenum 5y ago
    It’s just another of many testimonials of projects that will not be named at companies that will not be disclosed with implausible circumstances or unlikely details here to convince you that you had better switch your tech stack to this brand new thing before you too become a cautionary tale.
    - bombela 5y ago
      Google. Backup of filers. Conversion from NetApp filer dumps to tarball. I did open source a prototype of the tool. I don't know if it has the bug. The final version was to Google standard of C++ and maybe some cleaner abstractions. https://github.com/bombela/dump2tar https://github.com/bombela/dump2tar
tptacek 5y ago
These people are obviously serious.
topspin 5y ago
It would be funny if they couldn't cite an endless stream of evidence for their argument. They can, however. And it's not going to stop. That's the thing about the memory safety argument; the people making it have an endless supply of ammunition, resupplied daily.
- opnitro 5y ago
  See: https://twitter.com/LazyFishBarrel https://twitter.com/LazyFishBarrel

bombela 5y ago

It's both funny and true at the same time. I used to advertise my worth in how good my C++ is. Until I had a dumb after free error after git merging two adjacent line in the wrong order. A simple vector push done after capturing vector.begin instead of before. Nobody saw that in code review. Even reviews from C++ experts at the company. Of course it took 6 months until the first segfault. Invalidating 6 months of work. Rust would have not compiled. As simple as that. Now imagine if you could write code without living in fear of making everything blow up because of a single moment of weakness. That's Rust for me.

saagarjha 5y ago
> Invalidating 6 months of work. What kind of system was this where a bug would literally invalidate all results from the moment it was introduced?
- grumblenum 5y ago
  It’s just another of many testimonials of projects that will not be named at companies that will not be disclosed with implausible circumstances or unlikely details here to convince you that you had better switch your tech stack to this brand new thing before you too become a cautionary tale.
  - bombela 5y ago
    Google. Backup of filers. Conversion from NetApp filer dumps to tarball. I did open source a prototype of the tool. I don't know if it has the bug. The final version was to Google standard of C++ and maybe some cleaner abstractions. https://github.com/bombela/dump2tar https://github.com/bombela/dump2tar

tptacek 5y ago

These people are obviously serious.

topspin 5y ago

It would be funny if they couldn't cite an endless stream of evidence for their argument. They can, however. And it's not going to stop. That's the thing about the memory safety argument; the people making it have an endless supply of ammunition, resupplied daily.

opnitro 5y ago
See: https://twitter.com/LazyFishBarrel https://twitter.com/LazyFishBarrel