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2022 Tesla Model S Plaid First Test: 0–60 MPH in 1.98 Seconds
- alasdair_ 5y agoIt’s so close to the roadster, I see little point in bothering with a roadster now.
- FridayoLeary 5y agoThey don't even sell the roadster in the UK.
- akmarinov 5y agoThey don’t sell it anywhere yet
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- seattle_spring 5y agoThere is so much more to the driving experience than acceleration. No matter how you slice it, the Model S is still a huge, heavy boat.
- nabla9 5y ago2.28 seconds without cheating. Add glue to asphalt and start at 6 mph instead of 0 mph and it's below 2 seconds.
- unknownOrigin 5y agoThe real question is how are other cars measured, because if everyone cheats, no one cheats.
- toomuchtodo 5y agoEveryone does a 1 foot rollout.
- GhostVII 5y agoMagazines do, manufacturers generally don't.
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- throwaway292893 5y agoSource? Everything I've seen says 1 foot rollout is industry standard.
- nabla9 5y agoNorth American auto magazines.
- nabla9 5y agoEuropeans don't. Porsche for example. Dodge don't do it. Tesla don't do it either for their non performance models.
- leetcrew 5y agonot really. if everyone cheats a different way, you just can't compare the numbers. I wish people didn't care so much about this specific performance number anyway. 0-60 time doesn't tell you how fast a car will go around a track (if you're into that), and more importantly imo, it doesn't tell you much about how enjoyable a car will be to drive on public roads. it's particularly frustrating to see how the few remaining manual transmissions are all designed to hit redline in second gear at 62 mph. talk about optimizing for the benchmark...
- raisedbyninjas 5y agoFor car enthusiasts, I agree. For most of the population, 0-60 is a useful metric. Everybody accelerates from traffic lights and uses a highway on ramp nearly every day. Pulling 1g on a curve is for a work commute or road trip is rare.
- birdyrooster 5y agoThe engineers begged Elon not to whip them again but to make it stop they would have to use some shenanigans.
- akmarinov 5y ago2.8 if you don’t feel like engaging the drag strip mode that takes 8 to 15 minutes to cool the motors and cool/heat the battery so you can do the 2.28 The LR is 3.1, so you decide whether $50k is worth it.
- etaioinshrdlu 5y agoSad they cancelled the Plaid Plus. I really wanted the 500mi range. I don't really need to accelerate 0-60 in 2 seconds.
- giuliomagnifico 5y agoRepost: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27541901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27541901 PS: Tesla used prepped tarmac surfac to obtain this time.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y agoAlso mentioned here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27548535 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27548535
- klipklop 5y agoPrepping the road is not uncommon to get the fastest possible time. Hell even street racers will use VHT. I don't really see it as misleading.
- bradlys 5y agoIt’s misleading because it’s not standard. When testing production road cars, it’s very common to test on standard road surfaces - not super glue.
- hprotagonist 5y agorolling starts on super grippy surfaces sure sounds like cooking the books to me.
- sliken 5y agoSort of, rolling starts are the standard at drag strips, and various auto magazines. What's more dishonest is not posting similar numbers for the other Tesla's.
- culopatin 5y agoWhat is the steering wheel angle ratio? I don’t know how you’d do a quick three point turn with that steering wheel unless it changes drastically in low speeds.
- lm28469 5y agoI don't really get how this is relevant for anyone besides tesla shills at this point. It's the metric that matters the least when it comes to electric vehicles. It makes me think of Samsung 100+ mpx phone camera sensors. People who don't know a thing about the topic drool over big (or small) numbers but it's 99.99% marketing and 0.01% real world use. We were promised fully autonomous cars in "2 years" in 2012 and all we get are vaguely superior driver assistance techs and fast 0-100 to burn more rubber [0] It could do 0-100 in 1s I wouldn't want to drive something with that steering rectangle. [0] https://www.tiretechnologyinternational.com/news/regulations/pollution-from-tire-wear-1000-times-worse-than-exhaust-emissions.html https://www.tiretechnologyinternational.com/news/regulations...
- throwaway292893 5y agoYou don't see how acceleration is a relevant metric for a car? Yes, there are other metrics that are important for electric cars such as range and safety, and Tesla leads those metrics as well. Your bias is glaring in your comment, they set a record for world's fastest production car, your response, "meh that record is irrelevant". Pretty impressive that Tesla not only broke the record, but broke the will to keep records. The power of salt is crazy. Fully autonomous is another topic that noone has provided, being mad that you don't have it yet is just about as useful as being mad cars can't hover yet. It benefits no one and is not relevant. I for one am glad that Tesla put a fire under these other car makers ass. They've been coasting for so long, gouging for expensive upgrades without actually improving anything. They made electric cars shitty on purpose to keep ICE around. Now Tesla is making electric competitive in both looks and speed and your response is meh. I'm glad to see Ford and others taking electric seriously, but it's only because Elon is making Tesla so damn enticing. I may be a bit biased as well, but I prefer Tesla and its goals and track record vs the automobile giants very sketchy record. Also I remember the HN discussion from that tire emissions study, consensus was the numbers were fishy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22517621 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22517621
- bradlys 5y agoIt’s a relevant metric for car enthusiasts. But most people (overwhelmingly) are not car enthusiasts. Even Tesla owners are not car enthusiasts. They’re just stans for Elon and Tesla - they don’t care about any other cars. So, for them - acceleration isn’t actually important. It’s just bragging rights. For most people out there, FSD is way more interesting than some insane 0-60 time. It’s impressive that Tesla has made this accessible in an everyday car (mind you, it requires a special drag strip to hit claimed numbers). But it’s not really that relevant or even interesting to 99% of consumers out there - the difference between 2.2s and 3.2s is very significant to an enthusiast but to most people (including stans) - it’s not relevant. They’re not going to be gunning it on freeway on ramps - that is quite clear from the number of Teslas I get behind within the Bay Area. I like that Tesla is pushing the limits and getting EV adoption going but I see them selling snake oil and gimmicks as much as I see them selling a compelling EV car. They live for the gimmicks - without them there is very little reason the stans would be interested.
- gkfasdfasdf 5y agoFastest production car in the world...and seats 5 adults comfortably!