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> neck-beard What's wrong with hair growing on your neck if it grows there? It's completely natural. I know that this is slang/shorthand, but I don't agree wi

> neck-beard What's wrong with hair growing on your neck if it grows there? It's completely natural. I know that this is slang/shorthand, but I don't agree with it at all. I work with plenty of people who have unruly beards and none of them fit the "neck-beard" stereotype. I don't think it's a very nice term to be perpetuating. Judging people purely based on one physical attribute and then mocking them for it is not a great look for anyone.

oblio 5y ago
Hair on your neck makes you look unkempt. I think it's the main issue.
- wayneftw 5y ago
  So the problem is that unkempt looking people have created code that this person has to deal with?? Oh, and every single person who has hair on their neck looks unkempt, without exception, am I hearing that right? Sure, OK.
  - WorldMaker 5y ago
    For what it is worth, it isn't a neologism to this thread it's a (insulting) slang term for certain types of pedantic nerds in relatively common usage on the internet going back to early internet history (some of the earliest recorded usages were in the early 2000s). https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/neckbeard https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/neckbeard
  - oblio 5y ago
    > Oh, and every single person who has hair on their neck looks unkempt, without exception, am I hearing that right? Yes, shave it. Especially if you have long neck hair and short or no facial hair. There are some exceptions, if you have a long beard, maybe. Hair in other places is considered equally distasteful (long nose hair, ear hair, whatever).
    - aksss 5y ago
      It's both hilarious and jarring for me to have found myself reading a comment about ear hair grooming and the next snaps back to a comment about swift, c#, and Rider. :D
    - wayneftw 5y ago
      > Hair in other places is considered equally distasteful... ...by some. Clearly others disagree. Personally, I like hairy men and women. It's a clear sign that I won't have to deal with some priggish prude who is more concerned with looks than personality.
      - oblio 5y ago
        > Personally, I like hairy men and women. It's a clear sign that I won't have to deal with some priggish prude who is more concerned with looks than personality. Ok, but don't be shocked if some of those priggish people avoid you and unfortunately for you, they may be the ones deciding to give you a loan, to go on a date with you, to offer you a job, whatever. Everything in life comes with trade offs. And sometimes it's not worth winning the battle to lose the war.
        wayneftw 5y ago
        Yeah and the same goes the other way too. Don't be surprised if the heavily bearded middle eastern guy won't invest with men who they think look like women or who have made known their opinions about grooming. Don't be surprised if you don't get invited to parties or if the guy working on your car or skippering your boat screws you for being a stiff. Everything does come with trade-offs. That's correct. Being well-traveled is a cure for bigotry though. Realizing that you're in a bubble is the first step.
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- cuddlybacon 5y ago
  It is also signals a package of personality traits: * rejecting other personal hygiene customs * being noticeably more pedantic * picking every battle/argument * lower than normal respect for other's boundaries * lower than normal awareness of how their actions effect others * making "being rational" a core part of their identity * dismissing human behaviors they don't do as irrational. usually these are the ones where rational explanations do exist, they are just difficult to re-invent on the spot. This package is common enough to have earned itself a name, which happens to be the easiest visual indicator.

oblio 5y ago

Hair on your neck makes you look unkempt. I think it's the main issue.

wayneftw 5y ago
So the problem is that unkempt looking people have created code that this person has to deal with?? Oh, and every single person who has hair on their neck looks unkempt, without exception, am I hearing that right? Sure, OK.
- WorldMaker 5y ago
  For what it is worth, it isn't a neologism to this thread it's a (insulting) slang term for certain types of pedantic nerds in relatively common usage on the internet going back to early internet history (some of the earliest recorded usages were in the early 2000s). https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/neckbeard https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/neckbeard
- oblio 5y ago
  > Oh, and every single person who has hair on their neck looks unkempt, without exception, am I hearing that right? Yes, shave it. Especially if you have long neck hair and short or no facial hair. There are some exceptions, if you have a long beard, maybe. Hair in other places is considered equally distasteful (long nose hair, ear hair, whatever).
  - aksss 5y ago
    It's both hilarious and jarring for me to have found myself reading a comment about ear hair grooming and the next snaps back to a comment about swift, c#, and Rider. :D
  - wayneftw 5y ago
    > Hair in other places is considered equally distasteful... ...by some. Clearly others disagree. Personally, I like hairy men and women. It's a clear sign that I won't have to deal with some priggish prude who is more concerned with looks than personality.
    - oblio 5y ago
      > Personally, I like hairy men and women. It's a clear sign that I won't have to deal with some priggish prude who is more concerned with looks than personality. Ok, but don't be shocked if some of those priggish people avoid you and unfortunately for you, they may be the ones deciding to give you a loan, to go on a date with you, to offer you a job, whatever. Everything in life comes with trade offs. And sometimes it's not worth winning the battle to lose the war.
      - wayneftw 5y ago
        Yeah and the same goes the other way too. Don't be surprised if the heavily bearded middle eastern guy won't invest with men who they think look like women or who have made known their opinions about grooming. Don't be surprised if you don't get invited to parties or if the guy working on your car or skippering your boat screws you for being a stiff. Everything does come with trade-offs. That's correct. Being well-traveled is a cure for bigotry though. Realizing that you're in a bubble is the first step.
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cuddlybacon 5y ago
It is also signals a package of personality traits: * rejecting other personal hygiene customs * being noticeably more pedantic * picking every battle/argument * lower than normal respect for other's boundaries * lower than normal awareness of how their actions effect others * making "being rational" a core part of their identity * dismissing human behaviors they don't do as irrational. usually these are the ones where rational explanations do exist, they are just difficult to re-invent on the spot. This package is common enough to have earned itself a name, which happens to be the easiest visual indicator.