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$500/yr is expensive for a professional developer?

by zip1234 5y ago

lp0_on_fire 5y ago
It's not outrageous but it's not a trivial expensive, either.
- zip1234 5y ago
  It's also free if your organization makes less than $1M.
- sumtechguy 5y ago
  It really depends on your 'license' with them. For me as an individual it is basically 'free'. As the community edition is basically pro in all but name. But for a corp env it is like you say it is not 'trivial expensive'. They mowed down everyone else because it was that choice for a long time. You were talking 20-30k per year per dev in the 90s for some stacks. 150-500 per year was a bargain by that metric. But now there are 5 other IDEs you can pick from that are either cheaper or free. In some cases for some langs the cheaper ones are better in all respects. In some cases they are charging anywhere from 500-9k per year depending on how you buy it. Why would I start a greenfield project with VS in that sort of env, unless I was already a 'MS shop'? VS is nice, and one of the better IDEs but by comparison it is wildly overpriced.
  - CyanLite2 5y ago
    VS Pro Edition is $45 a month. Hardly would call that overpriced.
5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
Sure, in many parts of the world that's quite a bit of money. For example, it's more than 50% of what I spend on food per year.
- jve 5y ago
  You spend about for food 1$ a day? Where do you live? That looks cheap.
cesarb 5y ago
Yes, after looking up average salaries and doing a quick currency conversion, USD 500 is around 60% of a whole month's salary for an average software developer.
- cyral 5y ago
  More like 5%. Rider is also way less expensive and IMO better than visual studio these days
  - jorams 5y ago
    They're talking averages across (some larger part of) the world. Developer salaries in the US are incredibly high.
xtracto 5y ago
The median salary of a software developer in Mexico for 2020 was of $1750 USD gross, so after Taxes is around $1400. $500 USD a year is crazy expensive.

$500/yr is expensive for a professional developer?

lp0_on_fire 5y ago

It's not outrageous but it's not a trivial expensive, either.

zip1234 5y ago
It's also free if your organization makes less than $1M.
sumtechguy 5y ago
It really depends on your 'license' with them. For me as an individual it is basically 'free'. As the community edition is basically pro in all but name. But for a corp env it is like you say it is not 'trivial expensive'. They mowed down everyone else because it was that choice for a long time. You were talking 20-30k per year per dev in the 90s for some stacks. 150-500 per year was a bargain by that metric. But now there are 5 other IDEs you can pick from that are either cheaper or free. In some cases for some langs the cheaper ones are better in all respects. In some cases they are charging anywhere from 500-9k per year depending on how you buy it. Why would I start a greenfield project with VS in that sort of env, unless I was already a 'MS shop'? VS is nice, and one of the better IDEs but by comparison it is wildly overpriced.
- CyanLite2 5y ago
  VS Pro Edition is $45 a month. Hardly would call that overpriced.

5e92cb50239222b 5y ago

Sure, in many parts of the world that's quite a bit of money. For example, it's more than 50% of what I spend on food per year.

jve 5y ago
You spend about for food 1$ a day? Where do you live? That looks cheap.

cesarb 5y ago

Yes, after looking up average salaries and doing a quick currency conversion, USD 500 is around 60% of a whole month's salary for an average software developer.

cyral 5y ago
More like 5%. Rider is also way less expensive and IMO better than visual studio these days
- jorams 5y ago
  They're talking averages across (some larger part of) the world. Developer salaries in the US are incredibly high.

xtracto 5y ago

The median salary of a software developer in Mexico for 2020 was of $1750 USD gross, so after Taxes is around $1400. $500 USD a year is crazy expensive.