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It doesn’t have to be, but it has been made “left” in many companies. Start with seminars and zoom calls with progressive politicians as guests, donate company

It doesn’t have to be, but it has been made “left” in many companies. Start with seminars and zoom calls with progressive politicians as guests, donate company $$ to organizations that support civil rights while espousing Marxist beliefs, enable volunteer time to support certain types of politicians, etc. And that’s all aside from the instances of forcing CRT training on the workforce - plenty of controversy there as well. This stuff happens more than you’d think.

greenail 5y ago
I have seen all your examples in a top tech firm. In that same firm any public questioning was quickly shouted down in a way that made it clear that your were putting your career at risk by asking why the company was promoting left leaning politics through DEI.
astrange 5y ago
"Critical race theory" and "Marxism" are literally two different theories that oppose each other.
- greenail 5y ago
  I believe the ideology went something like this marxism -> neo marxism -> postmodernism -> critical theory -> critical race theory -> anti-racism You can see the connections by swapping out class for oppressions/oppressed power dynamics plus intersectionality
  - astrange 5y ago
    The connections between most of these are just that different French people wrote about some of them at the same time. e.g. Marxism and postmodernism are also opposed to each other. Corporate trainings of course also don't contain hardcore theories, because the point is to be inoffensive and prevent lawsuits. Ibram Kendi or Robin DiAngelo might show up and do a talk (these people also don't exactly agree) but the actual result is that people are going to start saying "allowlist" instead of "whitelist". What CRT actually says is that since many US laws were written under racism, those laws still do racist things, and it's obviously true: https://twitter.com/AdamHSays/status/1394986418993340425 https://twitter.com/AdamHSays/status/1394986418993340425
    - greenail 5y ago
      What CRT/anti-racism actually says is: capitalism is racist the US is systemically racist all white people are racist color-blindness is racist all disparate outcomes can be explained by racism None of the analysis is falsifiable so it is closer to religion than anything else. Based on the above lens these ideologies deconstruct things like laws and structures, or science and this is how you end up with racist math, racist knitting, racist birds... racist everything.
- ardit33 5y ago
  This is wrong. CRT is basically repackaged class war, and Marxism. I was born and lived under communism, and a lot of the means CRT is peddled, feels eerily similar to communist/socialist propaganda and perpetual class warfare. Because you have to have some kind of eternal enemy in order to prop up the ideology, even if it is a failed/bankrupt one to the core.
  - astrange 5y ago
    > This is wrong. CRT is basically repackaged class war You didn't disagree with me. By repackaging something it opposes it. That's called the narcissism of small differences - CRT is a liberal thing and nobody hates liberals more than leftists. Anyway, you don't seem to be talking about critical race theory (something taught in graduate schools) but instead critical race theory (a collection of unrelated or made up things Fox News has decided to complain about this year.)

greenail 5y ago

I have seen all your examples in a top tech firm. In that same firm any public questioning was quickly shouted down in a way that made it clear that your were putting your career at risk by asking why the company was promoting left leaning politics through DEI.

astrange 5y ago

"Critical race theory" and "Marxism" are literally two different theories that oppose each other.

greenail 5y ago
I believe the ideology went something like this marxism -> neo marxism -> postmodernism -> critical theory -> critical race theory -> anti-racism You can see the connections by swapping out class for oppressions/oppressed power dynamics plus intersectionality
- astrange 5y ago
  The connections between most of these are just that different French people wrote about some of them at the same time. e.g. Marxism and postmodernism are also opposed to each other. Corporate trainings of course also don't contain hardcore theories, because the point is to be inoffensive and prevent lawsuits. Ibram Kendi or Robin DiAngelo might show up and do a talk (these people also don't exactly agree) but the actual result is that people are going to start saying "allowlist" instead of "whitelist". What CRT actually says is that since many US laws were written under racism, those laws still do racist things, and it's obviously true: https://twitter.com/AdamHSays/status/1394986418993340425 https://twitter.com/AdamHSays/status/1394986418993340425
  - greenail 5y ago
    What CRT/anti-racism actually says is: capitalism is racist the US is systemically racist all white people are racist color-blindness is racist all disparate outcomes can be explained by racism None of the analysis is falsifiable so it is closer to religion than anything else. Based on the above lens these ideologies deconstruct things like laws and structures, or science and this is how you end up with racist math, racist knitting, racist birds... racist everything.
ardit33 5y ago
This is wrong. CRT is basically repackaged class war, and Marxism. I was born and lived under communism, and a lot of the means CRT is peddled, feels eerily similar to communist/socialist propaganda and perpetual class warfare. Because you have to have some kind of eternal enemy in order to prop up the ideology, even if it is a failed/bankrupt one to the core.
- astrange 5y ago
  > This is wrong. CRT is basically repackaged class war You didn't disagree with me. By repackaging something it opposes it. That's called the narcissism of small differences - CRT is a liberal thing and nobody hates liberals more than leftists. Anyway, you don't seem to be talking about critical race theory (something taught in graduate schools) but instead critical race theory (a collection of unrelated or made up things Fox News has decided to complain about this year.)