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I don't like the crypto nonsense of Brave, and while I like Firefox in theory, its performance leaves a lot to be desired and they don't seem to know who their

by tapoxi 5y ago

I don't like the crypto nonsense of Brave, and while I like Firefox in theory, its performance leaves a lot to be desired and they don't seem to know who their user base is. Microsoft Edge got a decent native vertical tab solution before Firefox did! Edge! I wish some nonprofit would make a Chromium browser with sane defaults and take my donations. That's all I need.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Does Vivaldi count?
- atatatat 5y ago
  If you trust the people behind Opera, sure?
  - xNeil 5y ago
    I trust them personally. Jon von Tetzchner, the founder of Opera, left Opera to start Vivaldi once he felt management wasn't doing things the right way.
k33l0r 5y ago
I tried out Edge for about 15 minutes but had to bail because of the amount of Bing and MSN nonsense embedded in the browser…
- figers 5y ago
  Where do you see that? I use it every day and step one was switching search to DuckDuckGo
fbcpck 5y ago
> its performance leaves a lot to be desired I'm not sure what you're talking about; this may be the case several times in the past, but you should check again because this is a thing that constantly changes. Firefox performance today doesn't really leave a lot to be desired IMO > Microsoft Edge got a decent native vertical tab solution before Firefox did! Edge! Tree Style Tabs has been around since like… 2007?. Or does the "native" part somehow make it a whole lot better?
- jjcon 5y ago
  For me at least Firefox is a no go on every laptop I’ve worked on - the fans start spinning up and I start losing battery life really quickly (especially on macs). Works fine on my desktops though.
- npteljes 5y ago
  I often find sites with subpar performance in Firefox. I think that it's the sites' fault though, for testing only in Chrome / Safari. Reddit's redesign is an example, the loading, scrolling, post opening experience is slow and I can see that it eats a lot of CPU. In chrome it's much faster on the same machine.
- EMM_386 5y ago
  > Firefox performance today doesn't really leave a lot to be desired IMO Sadly I recently left Firefox after having used it for 20 years (Phoenix/Firebird days). The performance degradation was becoming too noticeable. I switched to Brave (of all things), but that's only because I could no longer fight the real performance that a Chromium-based browser has. I hate doing this, because the last thing I want is a browser engine monopoly. That's why I started using Firefox in the first place, to help get rid of IE.
- tapoxi 5y ago
  Tree Style Tabs has been pretty limited since the port to WebExtensions. It can no longer take the place of the existing tab bar, and instead sits alongside it unless you do some Firefox profile CSS trickery that I never got working properly. Mozilla was considering adding a "hide tab bar" feature but I think they abandoned that.
atatatat 5y ago
Edge has the best security of any browser on Windows ducks
- blackboxlogic 5y ago
  Edge is the best browser for downloading Firefox.
- Santosh83 5y ago
  How is it better than any other Chromium based browser like Chrome, Brave or Vivaldi? I can understand it is more integrated than the others, but how is it more secure?
beervirus 5y ago
I use Firefox at home and Chrome at work. I can’t tell any difference on performance.
CRConrad 5y ago
> Microsoft Edge got a decent native vertical tab solution before Firefox did! Edge! Firefox has had the "down-arrow" Tabs menu, which does exactly the same thing, since, uh, about forever.

by tapoxi 5y ago

gjsman-1000 5y ago

Does Vivaldi count?

atatatat 5y ago
If you trust the people behind Opera, sure?
- xNeil 5y ago
  I trust them personally. Jon von Tetzchner, the founder of Opera, left Opera to start Vivaldi once he felt management wasn't doing things the right way.

k33l0r 5y ago

I tried out Edge for about 15 minutes but had to bail because of the amount of Bing and MSN nonsense embedded in the browser…

figers 5y ago
Where do you see that? I use it every day and step one was switching search to DuckDuckGo

fbcpck 5y ago

> its performance leaves a lot to be desired I'm not sure what you're talking about; this may be the case several times in the past, but you should check again because this is a thing that constantly changes. Firefox performance today doesn't really leave a lot to be desired IMO > Microsoft Edge got a decent native vertical tab solution before Firefox did! Edge! Tree Style Tabs has been around since like… 2007?. Or does the "native" part somehow make it a whole lot better?

jjcon 5y ago
For me at least Firefox is a no go on every laptop I’ve worked on - the fans start spinning up and I start losing battery life really quickly (especially on macs). Works fine on my desktops though.
npteljes 5y ago
I often find sites with subpar performance in Firefox. I think that it's the sites' fault though, for testing only in Chrome / Safari. Reddit's redesign is an example, the loading, scrolling, post opening experience is slow and I can see that it eats a lot of CPU. In chrome it's much faster on the same machine.
EMM_386 5y ago
> Firefox performance today doesn't really leave a lot to be desired IMO Sadly I recently left Firefox after having used it for 20 years (Phoenix/Firebird days). The performance degradation was becoming too noticeable. I switched to Brave (of all things), but that's only because I could no longer fight the real performance that a Chromium-based browser has. I hate doing this, because the last thing I want is a browser engine monopoly. That's why I started using Firefox in the first place, to help get rid of IE.
tapoxi 5y ago
Tree Style Tabs has been pretty limited since the port to WebExtensions. It can no longer take the place of the existing tab bar, and instead sits alongside it unless you do some Firefox profile CSS trickery that I never got working properly. Mozilla was considering adding a "hide tab bar" feature but I think they abandoned that.

atatatat 5y ago

Edge has the best security of any browser on Windows ducks

blackboxlogic 5y ago
Edge is the best browser for downloading Firefox.
Santosh83 5y ago
How is it better than any other Chromium based browser like Chrome, Brave or Vivaldi? I can understand it is more integrated than the others, but how is it more secure?

beervirus 5y ago

I use Firefox at home and Chrome at work. I can’t tell any difference on performance.

CRConrad 5y ago

> Microsoft Edge got a decent native vertical tab solution before Firefox did! Edge! Firefox has had the "down-arrow" Tabs menu, which does exactly the same thing, since, uh, about forever.