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Ah. Ok, thanks - I totally get where you're coming from now and can definitely relate to your sentiment. The "you must use an IDE" crowd irks me just as much as
by ldh 15y ago
Ah. Ok, thanks - I totally get where you're coming from now and can definitely relate to your sentiment. The "you must use an IDE" crowd irks me just as much as the "you must use only Vim" one.
Maybe it's an inevitable part of a developer's progression to annoyingly latch onto some tool or another as "the one way", but hopefully we eventually emerge from that phase and have a better perspective on how each tool can be useful in combination with others.
I've been telling anyone who will listen that the world would be a much better place if Vim or Emacs could be embedded as the text editor in your favorite IDE. Use the IDE's refactoring, auto-completion, and workflow features and still have the full power of the editor's text manipulation, macros, and configurability. (To anticipate suggestions, I do believe that jVi in Netbeans is the next best thing to a full-fledged Vim, and love it dearly.)
- roel_v 15y agoRe: you last point, I 100% agree. I have tried the basic integration that Vim has with Visual Studio but it's a hack and I never stuck to it. Then since 2005 or so, whenever it came out, I've been using ViEmu, a Visual Studio plugin that makes the VS text editor work like vim, complete with (parts of) the macro language. It's so awesome I can't help myself but bringing it up every time a topic remotely related to it comes up.