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what research are you referring to?

tovej 5y ago
It seems I have to qualify "recent", this was already studied in the 70's [1]. But recent material is available as well [2],[3],[4],[6]. [3] provides a view from an economists perspective (incentives), [6] looks at motivation of employees and compares to performance and well-being outcomes. The psychological question is about intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivation, and has been studied for a long time now, for an overview, see [5] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation 1. "The Effects of Contingent and Noncontingent Rewards and Controls on Intrinsic Motivation", 1972, Edward L.Deci, [Available online] http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_OBHP.pdf http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_O... 2. Punished by Rewards, Alfie Kohn, 1999, https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ 3. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation ", Roland Bénabou & Jean Tirole, 2003, https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/1571401 https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/15... 4. Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation - The Search for Optimal Motivation and Performance, Carol Sansone & Judith Harackiewicz, 2000 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Performance-Educational/dp/0126190704 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Perfor... 5. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation", Lisa Legault, 2016, [Available online] http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/%20B.Ed.-%20102/IntandExtMot-EncyclPID-Legault2016.pdf http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/... 6. "Do intrinsic and extrinsic motivation relate differently to employee outcomes?", Kuvaas et al., 2017, [Available online] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication/317014526_Do_Intrinsic_and_Extrinsic_Motivation_relate_differently_to_Employee_Outcomes/links/5a9e8808a6fdcc214af31e24/Do-Intrinsic-and-Extrinsic-Motivation-relate-differently-to-Employee-Outcomes.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication... EDIT: added more recent sources
- buran77 5y ago
  But you're ignoring the "demotivating" factors. Getting a pay bump might not be a (good) motivator in itself but it may remove a demotivator. So sometime these moves are to release the handbrake rather than make the engine more powerful.
  - tovej 5y ago
    That's correct, that's why I said financial motivators don't matter _after_ you already have a comfortable life (your needs are satisfied). [1] and [6] both argue that rewards that aren't conditioned on performance (e.g. salary) don't detract from intrinsic motivation and that a competitive salary is a good motivator.
    - buran77 5y ago
      > financial motivators don't matter _after_ you already have a comfortable life Oh, this is a slightly different topic. Of course if your belly is growling money will motivate you a lot, and that motivation tends to go down the more you go past your comfort baseline. But think of pay disparity for example. Maybe your belly is full but your slacker colleague is making more money than you. That has a good chance of demotivating you, making you ask "why should I try harder?". Reducing this disparity and (perceived) inequity, eliminating the demotivating factor, goes a long way and has a far longer lasting effect than just the same extra money would bring otherwise.
      - tovej 5y ago
        I totally agree, salaries aren't bad, bonuses are. And pay disparity can be a problem, especially if salary data is hidden. I think most of the time the problem is a lack of openness about salaries and why they are as they are.

It seems I have to qualify "recent", this was already studied in the 70's [1]. But recent material is available as well [2],[3],[4],[6]. [3] provides a view from an economists perspective (incentives), [6] looks at motivation of employees and compares to performance and well-being outcomes. The psychological question is about intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivation, and has been studied for a long time now, for an overview, see [5] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation 1. "The Effects of Contingent and Noncontingent Rewards and Controls on Intrinsic Motivation", 1972, Edward L.Deci, [Available online] http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_OBHP.pdf http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_O... 2. Punished by Rewards, Alfie Kohn, 1999, https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ 3. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation ", Roland Bénabou & Jean Tirole, 2003, https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/1571401 https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/15... 4. Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation - The Search for Optimal Motivation and Performance, Carol Sansone & Judith Harackiewicz, 2000 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Performance-Educational/dp/0126190704 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Perfor... 5. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation", Lisa Legault, 2016, [Available online] http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/%20B.Ed.-%20102/IntandExtMot-EncyclPID-Legault2016.pdf http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/... 6. "Do intrinsic and extrinsic motivation relate differently to employee outcomes?", Kuvaas et al., 2017, [Available online] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication/317014526_Do_Intrinsic_and_Extrinsic_Motivation_relate_differently_to_Employee_Outcomes/links/5a9e8808a6fdcc214af31e24/Do-Intrinsic-and-Extrinsic-Motivation-relate-differently-to-Employee-Outcomes.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication... EDIT: added more recent sources

buran77 5y ago
But you're ignoring the "demotivating" factors. Getting a pay bump might not be a (good) motivator in itself but it may remove a demotivator. So sometime these moves are to release the handbrake rather than make the engine more powerful.
- tovej 5y ago
  That's correct, that's why I said financial motivators don't matter _after_ you already have a comfortable life (your needs are satisfied). [1] and [6] both argue that rewards that aren't conditioned on performance (e.g. salary) don't detract from intrinsic motivation and that a competitive salary is a good motivator.
  - buran77 5y ago
    > financial motivators don't matter _after_ you already have a comfortable life Oh, this is a slightly different topic. Of course if your belly is growling money will motivate you a lot, and that motivation tends to go down the more you go past your comfort baseline. But think of pay disparity for example. Maybe your belly is full but your slacker colleague is making more money than you. That has a good chance of demotivating you, making you ask "why should I try harder?". Reducing this disparity and (perceived) inequity, eliminating the demotivating factor, goes a long way and has a far longer lasting effect than just the same extra money would bring otherwise.
    - tovej 5y ago
      I totally agree, salaries aren't bad, bonuses are. And pay disparity can be a problem, especially if salary data is hidden. I think most of the time the problem is a lack of openness about salaries and why they are as they are.