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Enjoying the ride is miles better than sabotaging your team.

by tovej 5y ago

buran77 5y ago
Teams don't work in a vacuum and it's not that hard to eventually find the slacker in a team. But you have team goals and individual goals. Team performance management and individual one. This is where good management comes in, to find a way to engage and motivate even a slacker, to get them to deliver at least the same amount of value you put in them. If the easy things fail (usually the financial or flexibility kind) there are other options. Find them the same position in a different team with different dynamics (a great individual can sink if everyone else on the team is much better, or much worse), find them a different position where they can shine (you can start as a mediocre midfielder and end up a successful goalkeeper), or even have them find a different job entirely.
- tovej 5y ago
  Recent research shows that financial and other extrinsic motivators actually inhibit performance. After a worker has achieved a base level of income that makes their life comfortable, any extra treats they receive will decrease their interest in the core function of their work, moving their focus to the extrinsic motivator instead. I've also heard interpretations of this effect that explain it as: being rewarded can demean the value of work, because it may feel as though the work itself is a chore that nobody would do unless they got rewarded. In general, I believe that extrinsic motivators lead employees to follow their instincts less and focus on anything that will net them a reward. This means that even if someone has a great idea for improving some aspect of the work a company is doing, it might not get done. They are instead being rewarded for whatever arbitrary KPI that management has decided is important. In fields where there is a single clear KPI, all processes are mature, management has a clear view of the entire value chain, and workers are focused on a single task that is highly tied to the KPI --- e.g. yields in manufacturing tied to a production line worker --- sure, rewarding high KPI is not a terrible idea (or at least as terrible as it would be otherwise). But whenever a workers focus can be co-opted by bonuses I believe bonuses tied to KPIs are a bad idea. RE: your second point, I absolutely agree. How well a person "fits" in a team has a high impact on a person's motivation.
  - andrewtbham 5y ago
    what research are you referring to?
    - tovej 5y ago
      It seems I have to qualify "recent", this was already studied in the 70's [1]. But recent material is available as well [2],[3],[4],[6]. [3] provides a view from an economists perspective (incentives), [6] looks at motivation of employees and compares to performance and well-being outcomes. The psychological question is about intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivation, and has been studied for a long time now, for an overview, see [5] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation 1. "The Effects of Contingent and Noncontingent Rewards and Controls on Intrinsic Motivation", 1972, Edward L.Deci, [Available online] http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_OBHP.pdf http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_O... 2. Punished by Rewards, Alfie Kohn, 1999, https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ 3. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation ", Roland Bénabou & Jean Tirole, 2003, https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/1571401 https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/15... 4. Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation - The Search for Optimal Motivation and Performance, Carol Sansone & Judith Harackiewicz, 2000 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Performance-Educational/dp/0126190704 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Perfor... 5. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation", Lisa Legault, 2016, [Available online] http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/%20B.Ed.-%20102/IntandExtMot-EncyclPID-Legault2016.pdf http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/... 6. "Do intrinsic and extrinsic motivation relate differently to employee outcomes?", Kuvaas et al., 2017, [Available online] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication/317014526_Do_Intrinsic_and_Extrinsic_Motivation_relate_differently_to_Employee_Outcomes/links/5a9e8808a6fdcc214af31e24/Do-Intrinsic-and-Extrinsic-Motivation-relate-differently-to-Employee-Outcomes.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication... EDIT: added more recent sources
      - buran77 5y ago
        But you're ignoring the "demotivating" factors. Getting a pay bump might not be a (good) motivator in itself but it may remove a demotivator. So sometime these moves are to release the handbrake rather than make the engine more powerful.

Enjoying the ride is miles better than sabotaging your team.

by tovej 5y ago

Enjoying the ride is miles better than sabotaging your team.

Teams don't work in a vacuum and it's not that hard to eventually find the slacker in a team. But you have team goals and individual goals. Team performance management and individual one. This is where good management comes in, to find a way to engage and motivate even a slacker, to get them to deliver at least the same amount of value you put in them. If the easy things fail (usually the financial or flexibility kind) there are other options. Find them the same position in a different team with different dynamics (a great individual can sink if everyone else on the team is much better, or much worse), find them a different position where they can shine (you can start as a mediocre midfielder and end up a successful goalkeeper), or even have them find a different job entirely.

tovej 5y ago
Recent research shows that financial and other extrinsic motivators actually inhibit performance. After a worker has achieved a base level of income that makes their life comfortable, any extra treats they receive will decrease their interest in the core function of their work, moving their focus to the extrinsic motivator instead. I've also heard interpretations of this effect that explain it as: being rewarded can demean the value of work, because it may feel as though the work itself is a chore that nobody would do unless they got rewarded. In general, I believe that extrinsic motivators lead employees to follow their instincts less and focus on anything that will net them a reward. This means that even if someone has a great idea for improving some aspect of the work a company is doing, it might not get done. They are instead being rewarded for whatever arbitrary KPI that management has decided is important. In fields where there is a single clear KPI, all processes are mature, management has a clear view of the entire value chain, and workers are focused on a single task that is highly tied to the KPI --- e.g. yields in manufacturing tied to a production line worker --- sure, rewarding high KPI is not a terrible idea (or at least as terrible as it would be otherwise). But whenever a workers focus can be co-opted by bonuses I believe bonuses tied to KPIs are a bad idea. RE: your second point, I absolutely agree. How well a person "fits" in a team has a high impact on a person's motivation.
- andrewtbham 5y ago
  what research are you referring to?
  - tovej 5y ago
    It seems I have to qualify "recent", this was already studied in the 70's [1]. But recent material is available as well [2],[3],[4],[6]. [3] provides a view from an economists perspective (incentives), [6] looks at motivation of employees and compares to performance and well-being outcomes. The psychological question is about intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivation, and has been studied for a long time now, for an overview, see [5] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation 1. "The Effects of Contingent and Noncontingent Rewards and Controls on Intrinsic Motivation", 1972, Edward L.Deci, [Available online] http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_OBHP.pdf http://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/1972_Deci_O... 2. Punished by Rewards, Alfie Kohn, 1999, https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ https://www.alfiekohn.org/punished-rewards/ 3. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation ", Roland Bénabou & Jean Tirole, 2003, https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/1571401 https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/70/3/489/15... 4. Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation - The Search for Optimal Motivation and Performance, Carol Sansone & Judith Harackiewicz, 2000 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Performance-Educational/dp/0126190704 https://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Extrinsic-Motivation-Perfor... 5. "Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation", Lisa Legault, 2016, [Available online] http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/%20B.Ed.-%20102/IntandExtMot-EncyclPID-Legault2016.pdf http://www.lcwu.edu.pk/ocd/cfiles/Professional%20Studies/FC/... 6. "Do intrinsic and extrinsic motivation relate differently to employee outcomes?", Kuvaas et al., 2017, [Available online] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication/317014526_Do_Intrinsic_and_Extrinsic_Motivation_relate_differently_to_Employee_Outcomes/links/5a9e8808a6fdcc214af31e24/Do-Intrinsic-and-Extrinsic-Motivation-relate-differently-to-Employee-Outcomes.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bard_Kuvaas/publication... EDIT: added more recent sources
    - buran77 5y ago
      But you're ignoring the "demotivating" factors. Getting a pay bump might not be a (good) motivator in itself but it may remove a demotivator. So sometime these moves are to release the handbrake rather than make the engine more powerful.