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https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-s/2021/2022-tesla-model-s-plaid-first-test-review/ https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-s/2021/2022-tesl...

yawaworht1978 5y ago
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/it-mad-bad-840bhp-dodge-demon https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/it-mad-bad-840bhp...
vardump 5y ago
So Model S Plaid can do 0-60 in 1.98s provided sticky VHT substance on the track. Same stuff used for other drag racers, super- and hypercars to get the required road friction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite Without VHT: "Once ready and in its cheetah stance, the Model S Plaid's launch is drama-free, even without the added advantage of VHT. The electric car accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in just 2.07 seconds, more than 0.2 second quicker than our previous record holder." Based on this, what NorwegianDude suggested that it doesn't come even near to that acceleration is just false.
- NorwegianDude 5y ago
  Same article, first thing: "we can confirm the 2.0-second 0-60 barrier remains unbroken. Unless, that is, you write your own rules." "Plaid accelerates from 0-60 mph in 2.28 seconds" So which one is it? Defenitly not 0-60 mph in 1.98. 0.29 seconds off is a huge amount. It's exponentially harder the lower you go, so I'd say that it's not even close.
  - remontoire 5y ago
    Roll-out is standard my dude. So is testing at drag strips. Next you're going to point out that a tesla accelerating on the beach gets to 60mph in 11 seconds and therefore Elon is lying. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration-testing-procedure-change-rollout/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration... https://www.motortrend.com/news/motor-trend-testing/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/motor-trend-testing/
    - GhostVII 5y ago
      Many magazines use rollout and different surfaces. But pretty much every car manufacturer displays their acceleration numbers without excluding rollout or using a prepped surface. The dodge deamon is the exception here because it is designed for drag racing. Tesla is interesting because they selectively include or exclude the rollout in their acceleration numbers. For their slower (but still very fast) models they include the rollout, and for their faster ones they exclude it, artificially increasing the gap between their models. Not sure why.
- throw0101a 5y ago
  Engineering Explained did a good video on this, specifically mentioning rollout: > […] No, Tesla's Model S Plaid won't hit 60 mph in under 2 seconds. In this video we'll discuss rollout, Tesla's actual 0-60 time, 0-60 theory, and what today's theoretical limit on 0-60 mph is. Watch to learn more! * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yigpPSu_o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yigpPSu_o More on the topic: > It's called a one-foot rollout and it's used in testing for all major car magazines. Here's what it is and why it's used. * https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32681/how-tesla-got-to-60-2-28-seconds/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32681/how-t... * https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a18202575/the-importance-of-rollout/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a18202575/the-importan... Sometimes it is there and sometimes not, so it's important to know how test was done: > Our results will now include the industry standard 1-foot rollout before the clock starts on acceleration runs. * https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration-testing-procedure-change-rollout/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration...
SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
> The car is stated to do 0-60 in 1.99 seconds. Does it do that? No, not even close. The MotorTrend article suggest that it is actually quite close.

yawaworht1978 5y ago

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/it-mad-bad-840bhp-dodge-demon https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/it-mad-bad-840bhp...

vardump 5y ago

So Model S Plaid can do 0-60 in 1.98s provided sticky VHT substance on the track. Same stuff used for other drag racers, super- and hypercars to get the required road friction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite Without VHT: "Once ready and in its cheetah stance, the Model S Plaid's launch is drama-free, even without the added advantage of VHT. The electric car accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in just 2.07 seconds, more than 0.2 second quicker than our previous record holder." Based on this, what NorwegianDude suggested that it doesn't come even near to that acceleration is just false.

NorwegianDude 5y ago
Same article, first thing: "we can confirm the 2.0-second 0-60 barrier remains unbroken. Unless, that is, you write your own rules." "Plaid accelerates from 0-60 mph in 2.28 seconds" So which one is it? Defenitly not 0-60 mph in 1.98. 0.29 seconds off is a huge amount. It's exponentially harder the lower you go, so I'd say that it's not even close.
- remontoire 5y ago
  Roll-out is standard my dude. So is testing at drag strips. Next you're going to point out that a tesla accelerating on the beach gets to 60mph in 11 seconds and therefore Elon is lying. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration-testing-procedure-change-rollout/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration... https://www.motortrend.com/news/motor-trend-testing/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/motor-trend-testing/
  - GhostVII 5y ago
    Many magazines use rollout and different surfaces. But pretty much every car manufacturer displays their acceleration numbers without excluding rollout or using a prepped surface. The dodge deamon is the exception here because it is designed for drag racing. Tesla is interesting because they selectively include or exclude the rollout in their acceleration numbers. For their slower (but still very fast) models they include the rollout, and for their faster ones they exclude it, artificially increasing the gap between their models. Not sure why.
throw0101a 5y ago
Engineering Explained did a good video on this, specifically mentioning rollout: > […] No, Tesla's Model S Plaid won't hit 60 mph in under 2 seconds. In this video we'll discuss rollout, Tesla's actual 0-60 time, 0-60 theory, and what today's theoretical limit on 0-60 mph is. Watch to learn more! * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yigpPSu_o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yigpPSu_o More on the topic: > It's called a one-foot rollout and it's used in testing for all major car magazines. Here's what it is and why it's used. * https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32681/how-tesla-got-to-60-2-28-seconds/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32681/how-t... * https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a18202575/the-importance-of-rollout/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a18202575/the-importan... Sometimes it is there and sometimes not, so it's important to know how test was done: > Our results will now include the industry standard 1-foot rollout before the clock starts on acceleration runs. * https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration-testing-procedure-change-rollout/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration...

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago

> The car is stated to do 0-60 in 1.99 seconds. Does it do that? No, not even close. The MotorTrend article suggest that it is actually quite close.