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That's the cold number's game. But that excludes a lot of factors which the original article is about. The moment you have internal competition, you build confl
by wildmanx 5y ago
That's the cold number's game. But that excludes a lot of factors which the original article is about. The moment you have internal competition, you build conflicts and distrust. The fallout on both teams may be much worse, in the long run.
Maybe you get this one project out the door, one team wins, the other one loses. Great. And then what? Half the other team quits since they didn't get that bonus and feel betrayed by management. The other half stays, but resents both management and the "winning" team. Now you reshuffle, and those guys have to work with each other. Start the game anew, with a new project? Great, now people know what's up and will play their cards accordingly. Infighting is guaranteed. That's a terrible way to manage teams. Short-term gain? Maybe. Long-term destruction? Basically guaranteed.
The "without any justification" part of your answer dismisses that that's exactly what the original article is about that we are discussing here. That alone is justification and it matches many people's experience.
I'm personally experiencing the exact opposite these days. I'm thriving on my company not doing this nonsense and we are doing fantastic!
- logicchains 5y ago>The fallout on both teams may be much worse, in the long run. The key thing is that nobody's presented any evidence, just some anecdotes. Clearly there are places that have internal competition and have done quite well, like Amazon (compared to e.g. GCP), or many trading firms.
- wildmanx 5y agoI so far haven't heard an anecdote from somebody claiming "I experienced internal competition and it was sooo great!". It's anecdotes from people having experienced anxiety, toxicity and overall bad work climate leading them to either quit or seriously consider it themselves or hearing it from their colleagues. And it's other anecdotes saying "some companies have done quite well". I personally have experienced it and I won't go back. And I have also personally experienced the opposite and now I'm having a blast without this nonsense. But sure, let's just say "nobody has evidence, maybe it's great, maybe it's not".
- ganafagol 5y agoThen you didn't read well. User tovej presented pretty good arguments about intrinsic vs extrinsic motivators, including a bunch of cited studies. Your argument that Amazon does great does not provide evidence. Maybe they's do even better without this crap, or maybe the employees would be happier.
- wildmanx 5y agoIn other words: Many pre-civil-war cotton farms had great success in the market. That doesn't legitimize slavery though.
- afarrell 5y ago> nobody’s presented any evidence, just some anecdotes As someone who has read histories and has been inside a courtroom, I’m curious what you mean by this.