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If anything, I hope this kind of litigation forces the US government to overhaul the patent system. Also, what if Google simply Open Sourced the small amount o

• raganwald 15y ago
  what if Google simply Open Sourced the small amount of Android that isn't already Open Source? The Linux community would surely embrace it, integrate the bits not in the mainline kernel that should be, and move forward. This only changes things if manufacturers start making 'empty' phones and require users to download and install their own free operating system. Furthermore, many of the patents cover the phones themselves and not just the software. So even if some version of Android was 100% patent unencumbered, the phone manufacturers would still find themselves in "negotiations" with the patent cartel.
  • azakai 15y ago
    > This only changes things if manufacturers start making 'empty' phones and require users to download and install their own free operating system. Actually this is a very good idea. Phones could be sold with just a tiny 'installer' that downloads the OS directly from Google. The first benefit would be that there is no software to sue the phone makers about. Microsoft, RIM and Apple would have to sue Google itself. The second benefit would be that the phone uses stock Android, not modified with crapware.
    • seabee 15y ago
      Stock Android is also not modified with any handset-specific features that genuinely add value.
    • Pooter 15y ago
      > Actually this is a very good idea. This is a stupid idea. Most people buy phones in wireless providers' stores, get them provisioned there, and then leave with a functioning phone. The idea of a bare phone that you can do whatever you want with would be appealing to a vanishingly small portion of the phone buying population. Everyone else would ask to see the iPhone, a Blackberry, or one of them Windows phones, because having to do do an OS install on a cell phone before you can use it would be a hasslicious waste of time for most people.
• barkingcat 15y ago
  The problem with that idea is that many parts of Android consists of fundamental changes to the Linux kernel. Google has repeatedly tried to get their changes incorporated, but Linus and the rest of the core linux developers has vetoed most of these changes. The objections mostly deal with Android performing certain types of power optimizations that are detrimental to the mainline kernel. So even if Google did "open" up android completely, it would represent a fork of the linux kernel instead of being "embraced". The only alternative is to give the linux devs free rein to change Android and rebrand it (since you can't use the android moniker).
  • mvanga 15y ago
    Getting code into the Linux kernel requires patience and a lot of work to conform to the standards set by the developers. I saw a great talk at ELC 2010 [1] from Greg Kroah-Hartman on the problems they faced when trying to get the Android changes into the kernel. He also did a short write-up of the problems[2]. [1] Video: http://free-electrons.com/blog/elc-2010-videos/ http://free-electrons.com/blog/elc-2010-videos/ [2] http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/android-kernel-problems.html http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/android-kernel-problems.html