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Ticket sales aren't enough to fund everything, so what else is there to do?

Nextgrid 5y ago
Are they not enough to fund “everything”, or are they merely not enough to fund greed? I don’t deny that players get paid a lot but 1) how much is that compared to the total money coming in from advertising? and 2) could we still have exciting games with players being paid much less?
scoot 5y ago
Pay players commensurate wages
worik 5y ago
Yes they are! They cannot fund the greed of the fat cats at the top. But ticket sales are plenty to maintain sport as a spectacle, but not the spectacle.
- hulitu 5y ago
  Football is not a spectacle from a long time.
FridayoLeary 5y ago
Twist UEAFA's arm for more bonus money and push for even more lucrative deals from TV companies. Or create your own football league where you don't even need to bother winning to earn piles of cash.
- jleyank 5y ago
  They tried to do this with twelve top teams. It would have prevented them from being relegated and to keep the cash to themselves. Lasted a day or two before the fan base rioted and 9 of the 12 teams said they were sorry. They might get fined or being whipped by their fans might be sufficient.
colechristensen 5y ago
There's 38 games in a season for that league and the home stadium for Ronaldo's team holds 41,000 and the cheapest tickets are 136 euros. Right there is 215 million if you sold out the stadium with the cheapest price... well I don't know if the stadium sells out and there are season tickets and more expensive tickets... but there's also merch and hotdog sales (no idea what stadium food is for european soccer matches). In short... cry me a river. If hundreds of millions per year isn't enough money for "everything" needed to support a group of guys to play a game per year, "everything" must include a lot of rent seeking from people getting paid a lot to exist and not much else actually enabling the goal.
- movedx 5y ago
  > In short... cry me a river. Exactly. What a first world problem. They could also start by, you know, not paying the players wages measured in GDPs and maybe knock them down to say, only-1-super-car type figures? Pretty certain you'd still get people wanting to be (famous) footballers.
  - flukus 5y ago
    > retty certain you'd still get people wanting to be (famous) footballers. Yep. Pretty sure every kid dreams of kicking the winning goal in the world cup final or something of that nature. Back when I had those aspirations I barely had a concept of money, let alone that sporting hero's had more of it than everyone else remotely connected to me in my world combined. For that matter, most of the sports I watched were only just professionalizing then, half of my hero's still had day jobs.
  - BrandoElFollito 5y ago
    My wife was a national champion in athletism in the 80's. There was zero concept of money, they berely had matching sportware. Today she would be an ad Christmas tree and make lots of money. - absolutely not a driver at that time.
- ksec 5y ago
  38 Games but half of those are away. With significant less space and revenue split. I am not sure where the cheapest Juventus Ticket of €136 came from. As it is more like the expensive ticket during a derby. With away ticket as low as €30 and €50 for Home Ticket. Seasonal Ticket starts as low as €650. Basically the €215 Million is off by an order of magnitude. The majority of revenue for Football teams actually comes from TV revenue, sponsorhsip and Mech. Most if not all EUR and UK Football teams generally keep the ticket price as low as possible to encourage people going in to watch the Game. >If hundreds of millions per year....... With Player transfer going at €100+ Million, I am not surprised. Although with Football, so far the game has proven money can buy you the best team ( whatever that means ) but not the trophies. Which still keep it somewhat exciting.
hulitu 5y ago
The bloody footbaler workig only 1,5 hour. UEFA shall build some brothels on stadiums so the footbalers can work there the rest 6,5 hours.
noxer 5y ago
It doesn't matter. Revenue is always maximized, this is not a non-profit event, they absolutely dont care about how they could come out breakeven. Also there is essentially no competition. If you want to watch that kind of sport you cant really choose. And if you wanna play that sport on that level you also can not choose.

Are they not enough to fund “everything”, or are they merely not enough to fund greed? I don’t deny that players get paid a lot but 1) how much is that compared to the total money coming in from advertising? and 2) could we still have exciting games with players being paid much less?

scoot 5y ago

Pay players commensurate wages

worik 5y ago

Yes they are! They cannot fund the greed of the fat cats at the top. But ticket sales are plenty to maintain sport as a spectacle, but not the spectacle.

hulitu 5y ago
Football is not a spectacle from a long time.

FridayoLeary 5y ago

Twist UEAFA's arm for more bonus money and push for even more lucrative deals from TV companies. Or create your own football league where you don't even need to bother winning to earn piles of cash.

jleyank 5y ago
They tried to do this with twelve top teams. It would have prevented them from being relegated and to keep the cash to themselves. Lasted a day or two before the fan base rioted and 9 of the 12 teams said they were sorry. They might get fined or being whipped by their fans might be sufficient.

colechristensen 5y ago

There's 38 games in a season for that league and the home stadium for Ronaldo's team holds 41,000 and the cheapest tickets are 136 euros. Right there is 215 million if you sold out the stadium with the cheapest price... well I don't know if the stadium sells out and there are season tickets and more expensive tickets... but there's also merch and hotdog sales (no idea what stadium food is for european soccer matches). In short... cry me a river. If hundreds of millions per year isn't enough money for "everything" needed to support a group of guys to play a game per year, "everything" must include a lot of rent seeking from people getting paid a lot to exist and not much else actually enabling the goal.

movedx 5y ago
> In short... cry me a river. Exactly. What a first world problem. They could also start by, you know, not paying the players wages measured in GDPs and maybe knock them down to say, only-1-super-car type figures? Pretty certain you'd still get people wanting to be (famous) footballers.
- flukus 5y ago
  > retty certain you'd still get people wanting to be (famous) footballers. Yep. Pretty sure every kid dreams of kicking the winning goal in the world cup final or something of that nature. Back when I had those aspirations I barely had a concept of money, let alone that sporting hero's had more of it than everyone else remotely connected to me in my world combined. For that matter, most of the sports I watched were only just professionalizing then, half of my hero's still had day jobs.
- BrandoElFollito 5y ago
  My wife was a national champion in athletism in the 80's. There was zero concept of money, they berely had matching sportware. Today she would be an ad Christmas tree and make lots of money. - absolutely not a driver at that time.
ksec 5y ago
38 Games but half of those are away. With significant less space and revenue split. I am not sure where the cheapest Juventus Ticket of €136 came from. As it is more like the expensive ticket during a derby. With away ticket as low as €30 and €50 for Home Ticket. Seasonal Ticket starts as low as €650. Basically the €215 Million is off by an order of magnitude. The majority of revenue for Football teams actually comes from TV revenue, sponsorhsip and Mech. Most if not all EUR and UK Football teams generally keep the ticket price as low as possible to encourage people going in to watch the Game. >If hundreds of millions per year....... With Player transfer going at €100+ Million, I am not surprised. Although with Football, so far the game has proven money can buy you the best team ( whatever that means ) but not the trophies. Which still keep it somewhat exciting.

hulitu 5y ago

The bloody footbaler workig only 1,5 hour. UEFA shall build some brothels on stadiums so the footbalers can work there the rest 6,5 hours.

noxer 5y ago

It doesn't matter. Revenue is always maximized, this is not a non-profit event, they absolutely dont care about how they could come out breakeven. Also there is essentially no competition. If you want to watch that kind of sport you cant really choose. And if you wanna play that sport on that level you also can not choose.