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Firefox Sync is now 100% Python

82 points by twapi 15y ago

ArtemZ 15y ago
R.I.P
beaumartinez 15y ago
Interesting remark from the author in a reply to one of the comments: "Most server-side Mozilla projects are moving to a Python-based eco-system."[1] [1] http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/firefox-sync-python/#comment-11602 http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/firefox-sync-pyth...
- gkoberger 15y ago
  'Tis true! https://github.com/mozilla https://github.com/mozilla
wunderfool 15y ago
someone else graduating from php kindergarten congrats!
unshift 15y ago
total aside but i went to set up Firefox sync for someone the other day and ended up ditching it all together. in addition to a username/password for a sync account, you need to use an (unretrievable) sync key to add a browser. i understand the desire for security and privacy, but this is just horrible usability. i can get it all working obviously but there's no way this person (who is 80 years old) is going to be able to enter a key to set up the remote machines. chrome's sync is much better. just use your gmail/google account credentials, and you're all set.
- sid0 15y ago
  And have fun telling Google all about where you get your porn. Chrome's sync is not a reasonable option for anyone who cares about his privacy enough (which should be everybody on Hacker News). you need to use an (unretrievable) sync key to add a browser No you don't. You need a 12-character weak secret that shows up on one of the computers.
  - Pewpewarrows 15y ago
    You seem to be horribly mis-informed about Chrome's sync features. The data being synced is completely encrypted end-to-end, and you can provide a personal passphrase aside from your Google credentials as an added level of security if you'd like.
    - sid0 15y ago
      The data being synced is completely encrypted end-to-end, and you can provide a personal passphrase aside from your Google credentials as an added level of security if you'd like. I'm having trouble parsing this comment -- part of any "end-to-end" encryption would be an additional passphrase not known or accessible to Google in any form. Obviously Google knows about your Google credentials, so merely the credentials are not sufficient to get "end-to-end" encryption. Also last I checked the personal passphrase only encrypted passwords. I haven't used Chrome in a long while, so has that been extended to all your data yet?
      - Pewpewarrows 15y ago
        If you think Google has access to your raw, plaintext credentials logged somewhere on their servers, I have a Nigerian banker to forward your way who'd love to give you a million dollars if you help him up-front with a little cash.
        scrod 15y ago
        Nope, you're wrong. Google will always be in a situation where they can read your password. Otherwise authentication to the rest of their services would be impossible.
        Pewpewarrows 15y ago
        Again, it's sad if you think they're actually logging everyone's plaintext credentials. Which is besides the point, because in the latest versions the additional non-Google account passphrase extends to all the encrypted data it syncs.
- benmccann 15y ago
  I use Xmarks to sync both Firefox and Chrome. Then I can keep my bookmarks in sync between browsers instead of having to have a different set for each browser.
tete 15y ago
Ugh, Python?! It's so bad... Just joking, I'm not a troll. ;) I just wonder where they go with Sync. Closely watching the Mozilla community I know there are (still? Has been a while) big plans, but think Firefox Sync really needs a broader audience, both users and developers. I also have the feeling this could somehow be connected with HTML5/HTTP(P2P) to create something really great. Just have to figure out what it is.
wizzard 15y ago
They can write it in VB for all I care as long as they make it stop completely screwing up and deleting my bookmarks.

82 points by twapi 15y ago

R.I.P

Interesting remark from the author in a reply to one of the comments: "Most server-side Mozilla projects are moving to a Python-based eco-system."[1] [1] http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/firefox-sync-python/#comment-11602 http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/firefox-sync-pyth...

gkoberger 15y ago
'Tis true! https://github.com/mozilla https://github.com/mozilla

wunderfool 15y ago

someone else graduating from php kindergarten congrats!

unshift 15y ago

total aside but i went to set up Firefox sync for someone the other day and ended up ditching it all together. in addition to a username/password for a sync account, you need to use an (unretrievable) sync key to add a browser. i understand the desire for security and privacy, but this is just horrible usability. i can get it all working obviously but there's no way this person (who is 80 years old) is going to be able to enter a key to set up the remote machines. chrome's sync is much better. just use your gmail/google account credentials, and you're all set.

sid0 15y ago
And have fun telling Google all about where you get your porn. Chrome's sync is not a reasonable option for anyone who cares about his privacy enough (which should be everybody on Hacker News). you need to use an (unretrievable) sync key to add a browser No you don't. You need a 12-character weak secret that shows up on one of the computers.
- Pewpewarrows 15y ago
  You seem to be horribly mis-informed about Chrome's sync features. The data being synced is completely encrypted end-to-end, and you can provide a personal passphrase aside from your Google credentials as an added level of security if you'd like.
  - sid0 15y ago
    The data being synced is completely encrypted end-to-end, and you can provide a personal passphrase aside from your Google credentials as an added level of security if you'd like. I'm having trouble parsing this comment -- part of any "end-to-end" encryption would be an additional passphrase not known or accessible to Google in any form. Obviously Google knows about your Google credentials, so merely the credentials are not sufficient to get "end-to-end" encryption. Also last I checked the personal passphrase only encrypted passwords. I haven't used Chrome in a long while, so has that been extended to all your data yet?
    - Pewpewarrows 15y ago
      If you think Google has access to your raw, plaintext credentials logged somewhere on their servers, I have a Nigerian banker to forward your way who'd love to give you a million dollars if you help him up-front with a little cash.
      - scrod 15y ago
        Nope, you're wrong. Google will always be in a situation where they can read your password. Otherwise authentication to the rest of their services would be impossible.
        Pewpewarrows 15y ago
        Again, it's sad if you think they're actually logging everyone's plaintext credentials. Which is besides the point, because in the latest versions the additional non-Google account passphrase extends to all the encrypted data it syncs.
benmccann 15y ago
I use Xmarks to sync both Firefox and Chrome. Then I can keep my bookmarks in sync between browsers instead of having to have a different set for each browser.

tete 15y ago

Ugh, Python?! It's so bad... Just joking, I'm not a troll. ;) I just wonder where they go with Sync. Closely watching the Mozilla community I know there are (still? Has been a while) big plans, but think Firefox Sync really needs a broader audience, both users and developers. I also have the feeling this could somehow be connected with HTML5/HTTP(P2P) to create something really great. Just have to figure out what it is.

wizzard 15y ago

They can write it in VB for all I care as long as they make it stop completely screwing up and deleting my bookmarks.