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When I graduated I submitted around 50 applications to open jobs around where I live, to almost no feedback at all. I'm in this industry and doing well because

When I graduated I submitted around 50 applications to open jobs around where I live, to almost no feedback at all. I'm in this industry and doing well because of recruiter reaching out to me (multiple times) and not vice versa. The whole idea of applying for jobs just doesn't seem to work at all.

gip 5y ago
My experience is similar but at a differet level of seniorty. I've applied to ~15 jobs for engineering manager and got 1 answer. On the other end a recruiter reached out to me and I'll be doing the final interview with their VP next week. I don't think we can draw conclusion at that stage (we are a dataset of 2..). But I'd love to have access to the LinkedIn dataset to figure out if applying for jobs is broken at scale.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Waiting for a recuitor to call you limits your potential but makes the process easier for you. Applying yourself takes a lot of work but you get to select who you want and to target a bigger group which. But it's messy, ugly , stressful and filled with rejections for no reason.
  - wernercd 5y ago
    Doing both, when you need a job, gives you the best of both worlds. It's ugly and mimicks real life... more effort gives better results but life isn't fair and never has been. Luck factors but always fight on multiple fronts.
908B64B197 5y ago
Where did you graduate from?
- Aperocky 5y ago
  A school that has consistently ranked top 20 and sometimes in top 10. My major are slightly mismatched though.
  - gip 5y ago
    Did you use platforms like Handshake or Jumpstart to apply?
    - Aperocky 5y ago
      No, I used Linkedin at the time. Then I stopped bothering when it's super obvious that isn't working. Particularly, on Linkedin you could see the number of people that has applied (maybe a paid feature, i don't remember now). And for any entry level software engineering and data science position it's always in the 100s. The one recruiter that I had contact with did more work than all of these. I've since switched jobs (to one of the FAANG) and that was through recruiter too.
  - 908B64B197 5y ago
    Top 20/10 for your field? In the US? Worldwide?
    - Aperocky 5y ago
      General, not sure about the field. I also don't think field matters until one gets to PhD levels, which I did not.

gip 5y ago

My experience is similar but at a differet level of seniorty. I've applied to ~15 jobs for engineering manager and got 1 answer. On the other end a recruiter reached out to me and I'll be doing the final interview with their VP next week. I don't think we can draw conclusion at that stage (we are a dataset of 2..). But I'd love to have access to the LinkedIn dataset to figure out if applying for jobs is broken at scale.

ipaddr 5y ago
Waiting for a recuitor to call you limits your potential but makes the process easier for you. Applying yourself takes a lot of work but you get to select who you want and to target a bigger group which. But it's messy, ugly , stressful and filled with rejections for no reason.
- wernercd 5y ago
  Doing both, when you need a job, gives you the best of both worlds. It's ugly and mimicks real life... more effort gives better results but life isn't fair and never has been. Luck factors but always fight on multiple fronts.

908B64B197 5y ago

Where did you graduate from?

Aperocky 5y ago
A school that has consistently ranked top 20 and sometimes in top 10. My major are slightly mismatched though.
- gip 5y ago
  Did you use platforms like Handshake or Jumpstart to apply?
  - Aperocky 5y ago
    No, I used Linkedin at the time. Then I stopped bothering when it's super obvious that isn't working. Particularly, on Linkedin you could see the number of people that has applied (maybe a paid feature, i don't remember now). And for any entry level software engineering and data science position it's always in the 100s. The one recruiter that I had contact with did more work than all of these. I've since switched jobs (to one of the FAANG) and that was through recruiter too.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  Top 20/10 for your field? In the US? Worldwide?
  - Aperocky 5y ago
    General, not sure about the field. I also don't think field matters until one gets to PhD levels, which I did not.