> My experience has been the opposite. Novice developers tend to be proud of how terse and dense their code is, and optimize for minimizing line count. I think

> My experience has been the opposite. Novice developers tend to be proud of how terse and dense their code is, and optimize for minimizing line count. I think it's both. There's a sense of accomplishment that goes along with both accomplishing some small task with minimal code, and also for having written a somewhat large chunk of code for a project. Both have their place, as succinctness has it's place, and it's natural to look back and feel proud of a lot of work. It's just when they aren't tempered by the experience to ask whether that terseness came at a cost that wasn't worth it or whether that project is much larger than it needs to be for the task accomplished that it ends up being detrimental.