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Related in both cases. SYOISP describes what I, as a somewhat opinionated author, believe to be the absolute minimum amount of information required to build a b

Related in both cases. SYOISP describes what I, as a somewhat opinionated author, believe to be the absolute minimum amount of information required to build a business that can be called an ISP. To the extent that the companies involved in meshcenter.org and also Starry are ISPs, there is definitely overlap.

ignoramous 5y ago
> SYOISP describes what I, as a somewhat opinionated author, believe to be the absolute minimum amount of information required to build a business that can be called an ISP. Thanks. Then, what'd you say are key differences between meshcenter.org and syoisp? Curious because meshcenter goes for maintainability and affordability too, from what I gather. Also, has Facebook's foray into the space with https://telecominfraproject.com https://telecominfraproject.com (and Google's too with https://opennetworking.org/ https://opennetworking.org/) change the landscape? They're going after 4G/5G like deployments, which is in sharp contrast with what starry and meshcenter are doing?
- grahamburger 5y ago
  > Then, what'd you say are key differences between meshcenter.org and syoisp? No big differences, everything is applicable to both. In practice 'Mesh' has kind of become associated with 'non-profit, volunteer staff,' and SYOISP makes the implicit assumption of a for-profit entity. > Also, has Facebook's foray into the space with https://telecominfraproject.com https://telecominfraproject.com (and Google's too with https://opennetworking.org/ https://opennetworking.org/) change the landscape? They're going after 4G/5G like deployments, which is in sharp contrast with what starry and meshcenter are doing? Unsure yet what these efforts (and I'll add Microsoft's Airband) will amount too. I will say that I don't really see them tackling the actual hard parts of improving connectivity, which is primarily the actual building of physical infrastructure. I mean, other than Google obviously doing so with Google Fiber. Software can only get you so far in this effort, which is I think a lot of the reason that the incumbent providers have maintained such a stronghold over modern tech companies.
  - slut 5y ago
    I'm working on connectivity stuff at Facebook. Facebook is doing quite a bit more than just 4g/5g like deployments but the focus is primarily outside the US. We do have some public tools that I think are especially relevant to your effort: https://www.facebook.com/isptoolbox https://www.facebook.com/isptoolbox it's actively being worked on and there are many unreleased features in development but would be happy for any feedback too. Hope it's helpful.
    - ignoramous 5y ago
      Are there any research papers or publications (like blogs) detailing Facebook's efforts in this space?

ignoramous 5y ago

> SYOISP describes what I, as a somewhat opinionated author, believe to be the absolute minimum amount of information required to build a business that can be called an ISP. Thanks. Then, what'd you say are key differences between meshcenter.org and syoisp? Curious because meshcenter goes for maintainability and affordability too, from what I gather. Also, has Facebook's foray into the space with https://telecominfraproject.com https://telecominfraproject.com (and Google's too with https://opennetworking.org/ https://opennetworking.org/) change the landscape? They're going after 4G/5G like deployments, which is in sharp contrast with what starry and meshcenter are doing?

grahamburger 5y ago
> Then, what'd you say are key differences between meshcenter.org and syoisp? No big differences, everything is applicable to both. In practice 'Mesh' has kind of become associated with 'non-profit, volunteer staff,' and SYOISP makes the implicit assumption of a for-profit entity. > Also, has Facebook's foray into the space with https://telecominfraproject.com https://telecominfraproject.com (and Google's too with https://opennetworking.org/ https://opennetworking.org/) change the landscape? They're going after 4G/5G like deployments, which is in sharp contrast with what starry and meshcenter are doing? Unsure yet what these efforts (and I'll add Microsoft's Airband) will amount too. I will say that I don't really see them tackling the actual hard parts of improving connectivity, which is primarily the actual building of physical infrastructure. I mean, other than Google obviously doing so with Google Fiber. Software can only get you so far in this effort, which is I think a lot of the reason that the incumbent providers have maintained such a stronghold over modern tech companies.
- slut 5y ago
  I'm working on connectivity stuff at Facebook. Facebook is doing quite a bit more than just 4g/5g like deployments but the focus is primarily outside the US. We do have some public tools that I think are especially relevant to your effort: https://www.facebook.com/isptoolbox https://www.facebook.com/isptoolbox it's actively being worked on and there are many unreleased features in development but would be happy for any feedback too. Hope it's helpful.
  - ignoramous 5y ago
    Are there any research papers or publications (like blogs) detailing Facebook's efforts in this space?