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Funny how this information is timidly reported by western medias. In France, where I live, it was pretty down on the homepage of Le Monde, a famous newspaper. L

Funny how this information is timidly reported by western medias. In France, where I live, it was pretty down on the homepage of Le Monde, a famous newspaper. Launches to the ISS seem more promoted. Edit: it’s the first article on the BBC so it might be relevant only to French medias.

88840-8855 5y ago
My impression of German media I read (FAZ, SPON, Welt, taz and a regional paper) is that nothing positive is being reported that is linked to China. I have the feeling that negative articles are highlighted and very visible (and receive many anti-China comments) while positive articles do not exist at all - and if they published, then there is little interest and only a few comments. The biggest positive article in the last months was their landing on Mars. However, it received only very little attention. On "Welt" it was bombarded with anti-Chinese comments and then the comment section was closed. I wonder why I realise this phenomenon. Perhaps it is my Confirmation Bias? Just wanted to share those thoughts with you.
- the-dude 5y ago
  More anecdata from NL : China bad, Russians bad. What surprises me the most as a child from the 80ies is how Russia has been resurrected as public enemy #1.
  - brnt 5y ago
    The article on the Dutch public broadcaster is extremely neutral and more detailed than I anticipated [1]. Not sure how Russia is related to the Chinese space program, but the coverage of Russian critics is pretty well done, I would say. Not enough maybe. It goes without saying there can be very little good to report on the Russian government, but let's please not reduce the largest European country to their leadership. [1] https://nos.nl/artikel/2385399-china-lanceert-taikonauten-naar-nieuw-ruimtestation https://nos.nl/artikel/2385399-china-lanceert-taikonauten-na...
    - the-dude 5y ago
      I included zhe Russians because the approach seems equivalent. Somehow, the average Dutch anonymous website commenter thinks Putin is an evil dictator who must be punished at all costs and the Chinese are performing a literal holocaust while their citizens have an awful unfree life.
      - brnt 5y ago
        Those claims are well-supported by evidence. If you would like to dispute that evidence, go ahead. But if that sort of news is all you read about China and Russia, you seem to be clicking only on the political headlines. Plenty other news is covered from those countries.
        the-dude 5y ago
        That's what I said.
  - throwaway4good 5y ago
    The media in most European countries do not have the resources to do independent reporting on China nor Russia, and thus relies a few usually American news outlets. I have notice how one often can find articles, where you can see on the language it has been translated line from line from an English source.
  - mensetmanusman 5y ago
    The invasion of Ukraine and assassination attempts of its own citizens in the EU didn’t help. It’s hard to hide spycraft these days, and the daily satellite updates showing Chinese expansion into contested territory is the main news story for those countries being impacted.
brnt 5y ago
Almost like we all know the name of first man on the moon, but have no idea who the other 11 were.
- corentin88 5y ago
  There wasn’t even the name of the 3 Chinese that just went to space in Le Monde’s article.
  - brnt 5y ago
    The Dutch article on the public broadcasters website I link below spends a paragraph on the crew composition and their previous history in the program. Perhaps Le Monde isn't quite so representative as you appear to think it is?
xwolfi 5y ago
I m French but I live in China, here it's reported like the second coming of Mao. It's incredible luck it synchronized near perfectly with the 100 anniversary of the party "without which there would be no new China".
- tibbydudeza 5y ago
  Much like NASA the CNSA has to play politics and it's fair share of butt kissing politicians to get it's funding.
hulitu 5y ago
Well America friend, china enemy. News outlets are also propaganda outlets so it is to be expected.
rasz 5y ago
Its almost like China thrown all western reporters out or something. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56617060 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56617060 https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/journalists-get-caught-in-the-middle-of-souring-us-china-relations/2020/09/16/350f8a52-f6ab-11ea-be57-d00bb9bc632d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/journalists-g...

88840-8855 5y ago

My impression of German media I read (FAZ, SPON, Welt, taz and a regional paper) is that nothing positive is being reported that is linked to China. I have the feeling that negative articles are highlighted and very visible (and receive many anti-China comments) while positive articles do not exist at all - and if they published, then there is little interest and only a few comments. The biggest positive article in the last months was their landing on Mars. However, it received only very little attention. On "Welt" it was bombarded with anti-Chinese comments and then the comment section was closed. I wonder why I realise this phenomenon. Perhaps it is my Confirmation Bias? Just wanted to share those thoughts with you.

the-dude 5y ago
More anecdata from NL : China bad, Russians bad. What surprises me the most as a child from the 80ies is how Russia has been resurrected as public enemy #1.
- brnt 5y ago
  The article on the Dutch public broadcaster is extremely neutral and more detailed than I anticipated [1]. Not sure how Russia is related to the Chinese space program, but the coverage of Russian critics is pretty well done, I would say. Not enough maybe. It goes without saying there can be very little good to report on the Russian government, but let's please not reduce the largest European country to their leadership. [1] https://nos.nl/artikel/2385399-china-lanceert-taikonauten-naar-nieuw-ruimtestation https://nos.nl/artikel/2385399-china-lanceert-taikonauten-na...
  - the-dude 5y ago
    I included zhe Russians because the approach seems equivalent. Somehow, the average Dutch anonymous website commenter thinks Putin is an evil dictator who must be punished at all costs and the Chinese are performing a literal holocaust while their citizens have an awful unfree life.
    - brnt 5y ago
      Those claims are well-supported by evidence. If you would like to dispute that evidence, go ahead. But if that sort of news is all you read about China and Russia, you seem to be clicking only on the political headlines. Plenty other news is covered from those countries.
      - the-dude 5y ago
        That's what I said.
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  The media in most European countries do not have the resources to do independent reporting on China nor Russia, and thus relies a few usually American news outlets. I have notice how one often can find articles, where you can see on the language it has been translated line from line from an English source.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  The invasion of Ukraine and assassination attempts of its own citizens in the EU didn’t help. It’s hard to hide spycraft these days, and the daily satellite updates showing Chinese expansion into contested territory is the main news story for those countries being impacted.

brnt 5y ago

Almost like we all know the name of first man on the moon, but have no idea who the other 11 were.

corentin88 5y ago
There wasn’t even the name of the 3 Chinese that just went to space in Le Monde’s article.
- brnt 5y ago
  The Dutch article on the public broadcasters website I link below spends a paragraph on the crew composition and their previous history in the program. Perhaps Le Monde isn't quite so representative as you appear to think it is?

xwolfi 5y ago

I m French but I live in China, here it's reported like the second coming of Mao. It's incredible luck it synchronized near perfectly with the 100 anniversary of the party "without which there would be no new China".

tibbydudeza 5y ago
Much like NASA the CNSA has to play politics and it's fair share of butt kissing politicians to get it's funding.

hulitu 5y ago

Well America friend, china enemy. News outlets are also propaganda outlets so it is to be expected.

rasz 5y ago

Its almost like China thrown all western reporters out or something. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56617060 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56617060 https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/journalists-get-caught-in-the-middle-of-souring-us-china-relations/2020/09/16/350f8a52-f6ab-11ea-be57-d00bb9bc632d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/journalists-g...