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I don't know how the downmix for headphones is created in this case, but if it spatializes the individual objects correctly, this removes the in-head-localizati

I don't know how the downmix for headphones is created in this case, but if it spatializes the individual objects correctly, this removes the in-head-localization artifact that unprocessed stereo on headphones suffers from naturally, especially for sounds with a center pan. We have just trained ourselves to accept that headphones make sounds appear inside our heads. And I am pretty certain that the author is mistaking the acceptance of this artifact for a "prominent presence" of the vocals in the demo tracks. Listening to a track that was intended for a stereo loudspeaker pair on headphones always creates a degraded experience if there is no further processing of the audio signal. Judging spatial audio without consideration of these differences leads to weird (wrong?) conclusions. And why does it matter how expensive a certain pair of headphones is? If I want to know the price tag I can look it up!

Cybotron5000 5y ago
…yes, related to ‘crosstalk’: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosstalk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosstalk
- jensgk 5y ago
  You probably mean crossfeed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfeed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfeed
  - Cybotron5000 5y ago
    yes, apologies - thanks for the correction! :)
aasasd 5y ago
> And why does it matter how expensive a certain pair of headphones is? “Grown-ups love figures. When you describe a new friend to them, they never ask you about the important things. They never say ‘What's his voice like? What are his favourite games? Does he collect butterflies?’ Instead they demand ‘How old is he? How many brothers has he? How much does he weigh? How much does his father earn?’ Only then do they feel they know him. If you say to the grown-ups: ‘I've seen a lovely house made of pink brick, with geraniums in the windows and doves on the roof’, they are unable to picture such a house. You must say: ‘I saw a house that come a hundred thousand francs.’ Then they cry out: ‘How pretty!’”

Cybotron5000 5y ago

…yes, related to ‘crosstalk’: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosstalk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosstalk

jensgk 5y ago
You probably mean crossfeed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfeed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfeed
- Cybotron5000 5y ago
  yes, apologies - thanks for the correction! :)

aasasd 5y ago

> And why does it matter how expensive a certain pair of headphones is? “Grown-ups love figures. When you describe a new friend to them, they never ask you about the important things. They never say ‘What's his voice like? What are his favourite games? Does he collect butterflies?’ Instead they demand ‘How old is he? How many brothers has he? How much does he weigh? How much does his father earn?’ Only then do they feel they know him. If you say to the grown-ups: ‘I've seen a lovely house made of pink brick, with geraniums in the windows and doves on the roof’, they are unable to picture such a house. You must say: ‘I saw a house that come a hundred thousand francs.’ Then they cry out: ‘How pretty!’”