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Not defending the Saudis here (I'm illegal in their country), but the US does those things too, except you don't even have to touch US soil. https://en.wikiped
by sascha_sl 5y ago
Not defending the Saudis here (I'm illegal in their country), but the US does those things too, except you don't even have to touch US soil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri
- dandare 5y agoa) That is technically true and it makes me super angry that US in a way normalised torture. b) While it is technically true, I assume the prevalence is orders of magnitude smaller. Still, cases like Abu Zubaydah are extremely disturbing.
- waynesonfire 5y agoPutin speaks a lot of this and we call it "what-about-ism"
- sascha_sl 5y agoNobody was even talking about Russia, something has gone seriously wrong if you preemptively have to defend torture in paranoid expectation of downplaying other torture.
- kar5pt 5y agowhataboutism would be the original comment bringing up American torture when someone criticized Saudi torture