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Nina Paley's MysticSymbolic

45 points by abetusk 5y ago

abetusk 5y ago
The MysticSymbolic is a generative art experiment. All code is FOSS (MIT) and art is under a CC-BY license [0]. Nina Paley did "Sita Sings the Blues" [1], "Sader-Masochism" [2] and "Mimi and Eunice" [3]. MysticSymbolic has a GoFundMe to help support it [4]. [0] https://github.com/mysticsymbolic/mysticsymbolic.github.io https://github.com/mysticsymbolic/mysticsymbolic.github.io [1] https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ [2] https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ [3] https://mimiandeunice.com/ https://mimiandeunice.com/ [4] https://www.gofundme.com/f/mysticsymbolic-development https://www.gofundme.com/f/mysticsymbolic-development
- chx 5y ago
  Sader-Masochism link is wrong copy-paste https://sedermasochism.com/ https://sedermasochism.com/ https://archive.org/details/sedermasochism/ https://archive.org/details/sedermasochism/ A predecessor of this is This Land Is Mine https://vimeo.com/50531435 https://vimeo.com/50531435 She is also a fantastic comics author https://ninapaley.com/NinasAdventuresArchives/NinasAdventures.html https://ninapaley.com/NinasAdventuresArchives/NinasAdventure... my favorites are the two color ones featuring Og ...
- dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
  > [3] https://mimiandeunice.com/ https://mimiandeunice.com/ I hope the Twitter mob doesn't notice this[0], otherwise she'll go through the same stuff as J.K. Rowling. https://mimiandeunice.com/2018/11/14/not-all-trans/ https://mimiandeunice.com/2018/11/14/not-all-trans/
  - howinteresting 5y ago
    JK Rowling is a transphobic bigot who has very recently retweeted Maya Forstater, someone who describes pronouns as being akin to rohypnol.
emacsen 5y ago
While this project (like Nina's quilt project) is interesting, and she has previously made some beautiful art, including Sita Sings the Blues, and Mimi and Eunice, Nina has spent a significant amount of time and energy in the last five years actively working to harm the lives of trans people. She has done this through using her substantial social media following to publish and post anti-trans articles, promote anti-trans writers, mock trans symbols (such as the trans flag), as well as actively mock the trans experience through posts about genitalia, pronouns, and other issues. I used to be a colleague of hers and also considered myself a friend of Nina's, but while she actively works to harm the lives of trans people, I feel people must know this side. I sincerely hope that Nina will understand the magnitude and severity of the pain she's caused people and will change her attitude and denounce her previous statements and activity. In the meantime, I would hope that those who wish to support her or her work express to her that they would like to see her turn away from this path and towards one of acceptance and compassion.
- sterlind 5y ago
  ugh that's really depressing. I really liked the generated art, but it feels tainted now knowing the artist hates my existence. I'm glad to know this though, thanks.
  - Joeboy 5y ago
    You and she probably have some points of heated disagreement, but I'm fairly sure she doesn't hate your existence.
  - pdamoc 5y ago
    Hate is such a strong word and most likely not the best description here. We all have beliefs about reality and these beliefs generate a lot of emotions. We also interact with our beliefs as if they are the reality and seldom question them. This is true for both more conservative or traditionalist beliefs and for ultra-progressive beliefs. When the beliefs about reality clash, as they inevitably do, people sometimes find it hard to take a more inclusive perspective and try to find our shared humanity. Unfortunately, most of the time they activate the old ingroup-outgroup distinction, Us vs Them and the Them must be destroyed. Just because someone don't share ALL of your beliefs does not mean that they hate you.
afpx 5y ago
This is great. Reminds me of the internet circa 1995 - more artful, playful, and esoteric.

45 points by abetusk 5y ago

The MysticSymbolic is a generative art experiment. All code is FOSS (MIT) and art is under a CC-BY license [0]. Nina Paley did "Sita Sings the Blues" [1], "Sader-Masochism" [2] and "Mimi and Eunice" [3]. MysticSymbolic has a GoFundMe to help support it [4]. [0] https://github.com/mysticsymbolic/mysticsymbolic.github.io https://github.com/mysticsymbolic/mysticsymbolic.github.io [1] https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ [2] https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ [3] https://mimiandeunice.com/ https://mimiandeunice.com/ [4] https://www.gofundme.com/f/mysticsymbolic-development https://www.gofundme.com/f/mysticsymbolic-development

chx 5y ago
Sader-Masochism link is wrong copy-paste https://sedermasochism.com/ https://sedermasochism.com/ https://archive.org/details/sedermasochism/ https://archive.org/details/sedermasochism/ A predecessor of this is This Land Is Mine https://vimeo.com/50531435 https://vimeo.com/50531435 She is also a fantastic comics author https://ninapaley.com/NinasAdventuresArchives/NinasAdventures.html https://ninapaley.com/NinasAdventuresArchives/NinasAdventure... my favorites are the two color ones featuring Og ...
dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
> [3] https://mimiandeunice.com/ https://mimiandeunice.com/ I hope the Twitter mob doesn't notice this[0], otherwise she'll go through the same stuff as J.K. Rowling. https://mimiandeunice.com/2018/11/14/not-all-trans/ https://mimiandeunice.com/2018/11/14/not-all-trans/
- howinteresting 5y ago
  JK Rowling is a transphobic bigot who has very recently retweeted Maya Forstater, someone who describes pronouns as being akin to rohypnol.

emacsen 5y ago

While this project (like Nina's quilt project) is interesting, and she has previously made some beautiful art, including Sita Sings the Blues, and Mimi and Eunice, Nina has spent a significant amount of time and energy in the last five years actively working to harm the lives of trans people. She has done this through using her substantial social media following to publish and post anti-trans articles, promote anti-trans writers, mock trans symbols (such as the trans flag), as well as actively mock the trans experience through posts about genitalia, pronouns, and other issues. I used to be a colleague of hers and also considered myself a friend of Nina's, but while she actively works to harm the lives of trans people, I feel people must know this side. I sincerely hope that Nina will understand the magnitude and severity of the pain she's caused people and will change her attitude and denounce her previous statements and activity. In the meantime, I would hope that those who wish to support her or her work express to her that they would like to see her turn away from this path and towards one of acceptance and compassion.

sterlind 5y ago
ugh that's really depressing. I really liked the generated art, but it feels tainted now knowing the artist hates my existence. I'm glad to know this though, thanks.
- Joeboy 5y ago
  You and she probably have some points of heated disagreement, but I'm fairly sure she doesn't hate your existence.
- pdamoc 5y ago
  Hate is such a strong word and most likely not the best description here. We all have beliefs about reality and these beliefs generate a lot of emotions. We also interact with our beliefs as if they are the reality and seldom question them. This is true for both more conservative or traditionalist beliefs and for ultra-progressive beliefs. When the beliefs about reality clash, as they inevitably do, people sometimes find it hard to take a more inclusive perspective and try to find our shared humanity. Unfortunately, most of the time they activate the old ingroup-outgroup distinction, Us vs Them and the Them must be destroyed. Just because someone don't share ALL of your beliefs does not mean that they hate you.

afpx 5y ago

This is great. Reminds me of the internet circa 1995 - more artful, playful, and esoteric.