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I just want something that's not an Electron app, not plain text, and not bloody markdown. I hate markdown, and I hate that it's taken over everything.

markus_zhang 5y ago
If not markdown then what's your recommendations?
- criddell 5y ago
  The primary format is probably some type of WYSIWYG format.
- Sophistifunk 5y ago
  I don't care how it's stored, as long as I can export it for backups' sake. I don't want to see markdown, I don't want to use it for formatting text, I don't want to use it as a user-interface, and I certainly don't want text jumping around and reformatting stuff as I type.
something98 5y ago
Having been making a go at several of the suggested applications, which all use MD, I’m also starting to like it less and less. I find the side-by-side panes of some just a hilariously stupid waste of space. And the editors that at least do live “previews” feel so janky when editing; watching pound signs appear and disappear as you move off a line, or having text shift around as bold and italics markers come and go. No, I don’t need all the formatting capabilities of a word processor. But there’s a reason why MD is often pretty-fied: it’s damn ugly and noisy as hell. I get that people want a “pure” text format for longevity’s sake; but just demand a text export-in MD if you like. But working in MD is crazy making; it’s ugly, distracting, and worst of all, the “raw” form is nothing like documents and formatting we’re all used to, so even if you get used to it, all of the other documents in the world you interact with will still be using real bold, italics, and headers of increasing size.
- 1234fef 5y ago
  As a person who also hates the stupid split screen, I think you will like https://bangle.io https://bangle.io , it is WYSIWYG local note taking app. It saves notes in markdown but provides you with a pretty interface. The goal of this project is to provide a nice interface like notion while keeping the data in users machine in a human readable format.
  - something98 5y ago
    I'll check it out. Thank you.
- crazyjustin 5y ago
  I think Markdown exists mostly to make the editing experience predictable for both the user and developer. I don't think I've ever seen a rich text editor that doesn't require babysitting.
gofreddygo 5y ago
When not near a keyboard, use paper. When near one, use plain text. For your sanity, keep metadata embedded in each file. I keep k:v pairs. One per line. e.g "topic: D3", "subject: scales", "context: Side Project" Use grep, awk (whatever). Slice, group, dice, join, merge, backup as and how you want. A bash-like shell is the only dependency. Check into git regularly. Some scripts I use ## group by topic. search for lines that start with "topic". print topic and the file name grep -i "^topic" *.txt | awk -F ":" '{printf "%-25s%s\n",$3,$1}' | sort ## find all files containing the "topic" tag grep -i "^topic" *.txt | awk -F ":" '{printf "%-25s%s\n",$3,$1}' | sort ## find all files NOT containing "topic". useful for cleaning up grep -iL "^topic" *.txt ## find first 10 files not containing "topic" and open each in vi sequentially for f in $(grep -ilL "^topic" *.txt | head); do vi $f; done
- emptyparadise 5y ago
  What if I want to include an image in my notes?
  - Multicomp 5y ago
    Onenote has no markdown, no electron, not just plaintext, has images
    - emptyparadise 5y ago
      I like OneNote. I had some annoyances with autocorrect being difficult to disable in some versions, but it's one of my favorites.
    - gofreddygo 5y ago
      OneNote, Apple Notes, Bear, Google Docs do everything. Except being functional on my locked down work devices and VPN network.
  - gofreddygo 5y ago
    be creative? image: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WLA_metmuseum_Venus_and_Adonis_by_Peter_Paul_Rubens.jpg image: screenshot.png

markus_zhang 5y ago

If not markdown then what's your recommendations?

criddell 5y ago
The primary format is probably some type of WYSIWYG format.
Sophistifunk 5y ago
I don't care how it's stored, as long as I can export it for backups' sake. I don't want to see markdown, I don't want to use it for formatting text, I don't want to use it as a user-interface, and I certainly don't want text jumping around and reformatting stuff as I type.

something98 5y ago

Having been making a go at several of the suggested applications, which all use MD, I’m also starting to like it less and less. I find the side-by-side panes of some just a hilariously stupid waste of space. And the editors that at least do live “previews” feel so janky when editing; watching pound signs appear and disappear as you move off a line, or having text shift around as bold and italics markers come and go. No, I don’t need all the formatting capabilities of a word processor. But there’s a reason why MD is often pretty-fied: it’s damn ugly and noisy as hell. I get that people want a “pure” text format for longevity’s sake; but just demand a text export-in MD if you like. But working in MD is crazy making; it’s ugly, distracting, and worst of all, the “raw” form is nothing like documents and formatting we’re all used to, so even if you get used to it, all of the other documents in the world you interact with will still be using real bold, italics, and headers of increasing size.

1234fef 5y ago
As a person who also hates the stupid split screen, I think you will like https://bangle.io https://bangle.io , it is WYSIWYG local note taking app. It saves notes in markdown but provides you with a pretty interface. The goal of this project is to provide a nice interface like notion while keeping the data in users machine in a human readable format.
- something98 5y ago
  I'll check it out. Thank you.
crazyjustin 5y ago
I think Markdown exists mostly to make the editing experience predictable for both the user and developer. I don't think I've ever seen a rich text editor that doesn't require babysitting.

gofreddygo 5y ago

When not near a keyboard, use paper. When near one, use plain text. For your sanity, keep metadata embedded in each file. I keep k:v pairs. One per line. e.g "topic: D3", "subject: scales", "context: Side Project" Use grep, awk (whatever). Slice, group, dice, join, merge, backup as and how you want. A bash-like shell is the only dependency. Check into git regularly. Some scripts I use ## group by topic. search for lines that start with "topic". print topic and the file name grep -i "^topic" *.txt | awk -F ":" '{printf "%-25s%s\n",$3,$1}' | sort ## find all files containing the "topic" tag grep -i "^topic" *.txt | awk -F ":" '{printf "%-25s%s\n",$3,$1}' | sort ## find all files NOT containing "topic". useful for cleaning up grep -iL "^topic" *.txt ## find first 10 files not containing "topic" and open each in vi sequentially for f in $(grep -ilL "^topic" *.txt | head); do vi $f; done

emptyparadise 5y ago
What if I want to include an image in my notes?
- Multicomp 5y ago
  Onenote has no markdown, no electron, not just plaintext, has images
  - emptyparadise 5y ago
    I like OneNote. I had some annoyances with autocorrect being difficult to disable in some versions, but it's one of my favorites.
  - gofreddygo 5y ago
    OneNote, Apple Notes, Bear, Google Docs do everything. Except being functional on my locked down work devices and VPN network.
- gofreddygo 5y ago
  be creative? image: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WLA_metmuseum_Venus_and_Adonis_by_Peter_Paul_Rubens.jpg image: screenshot.png