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> with undiagnosed ADHD If you're undiagnosed, how do you know?
by void_mint 5y ago
> with undiagnosed ADHD
If you're undiagnosed, how do you know?
- encoderer 5y agoI read the book Driven to Distraction and it changed my life.
- void_mint 5y agoSo...you don't know, right?
- encoderer 5y agoOk bud. Whatever you say.
- void_mint 5y agoYou don't think it's kinda shitty to people that actually have a disorder, to just assume you have it because you read a book? You don't think it's possible that reading that book could be beneficial for those that don't have ADHD as well? Thanks, bud.
- encoderer 5y agoNo, i really don't. I suffer with it too, still do, it still impacts my life every day. If you haven't read it, check out that book.
- void_mint 5y agoWell...without getting into any sort of "you don't actually know what you're struggling with", it's probably best to just say sorry you're struggling. Hopefully you seek actual help. Best of luck.
- encoderer 5y agoThank you! Best of luck to you too!
- smichel17 5y agoFor how this thread started and progressed, I'm pleasantly surprised at how it ended. Instead of getting into flame wars, I wish people would take this route more often. "I don't think we'll be able to work this out in this medium. Nothing personal and no hard feelings. Have a nice day." Kudos to you both.
- void_mint 5y agoYou don't change people's minds on the internet, no matter how misguided they might be. Just gotta let em figure it out for themselves mostly.
- zentiggr 5y agoIt's taken me a lot of work to figure it out for myself (with some excellent professional assistance). I still feel like just expressing my viewpoint could help someone else change, I just don't expect it most of the time. We are stubborn brains.
- void_mint 5y agoI try to provide some amount of reason, mostly just so if someone on the fence reads they can at least see some amount of argument against a bad idea, but the originator of the bad idea is only going to double down on their take.
- encoderer 5y agoThat is very reasonable for debate. But deciding to armchair-quarterback what somebody knows about their own mental health is frankly not a debate just an attack and a pretty silly one at that.
- R0b0t1 5y agoADHD, like a broken arm, can be obvious.
- void_mint 5y agoSure, and much like any condition of the brain, can be lots of things and openly mischaracterized by people unqualified to make judgements on such things.
- op00to 5y agoNeither do you.
- void_mint 5y agoSure don't, which is why I would defer to someone capable of making such diagnosis!
- fouc 5y agoIf you have ADHD, what's the value of getting it diagnosed? How much wasted time would be needed to get it diagnosed? And how much wasted time would be needed until a doctor hits on the right prescription for you?
- omginternets 5y agoFor mild cases, very little time is wasted getting a diagnosis, low to moderate dosages of stimulants work brilliantly and with very few side-effects, and CBT bears its fruits within a few weeks. The quality-of-life improvement is substantial.
- void_mint 5y ago> If you have ADHD, what's the value of getting it diagnosed? All the forms of care that require a legitimate diagnosis? > How much wasted time would be needed to get it diagnosed? An hour (not "wasted", used for legitimate diagnosis and assessment) > And how much wasted time would be needed until a doctor hits on the right prescription for you? Is your alternative just not getting meds? How is that better than trying?
- Rhedox 5y agoI often feel like that a lot of people just decide they must have ADHD simply because they struggle with wotk they don't want to do and aren't interested in or procrastinate. That's perfectly normal human behavior though...
- void_mint 5y agoYep. Similar to OCD, ADHD has just become a scapegoat for some people experiencing normal increased energy or trouble focusing. It's just sad because of the people that feel so confident they're experiencing something but never get actual treatment/help/diagnosis and then change their life around it. This post is a great example - "I read a book and decided I had ADHD and now let it dominate my life".
- TeMPOraL 5y agoAfter years of struggle and failed attempts at fixing the problem, you evaluate evidence and notice it fits the "I have ADHD" hypothesis more than it fits the alternate explanations. Happens more often with the Inattentive subtype of ADHD than with Hyperactive, because the former is much harder to spot, especially in adults, plus everyone around you is eager to offer you value judgements as diagnoses (suggesting you're lazy, undisciplined, don't have an actual problem), and/or prescribe you the common "go away" nonsolutions like better diet and exercise (I call them "go away" because it's just sending someone on a wild goose chase in order to have them stop bothering you). ADHD is severely underdiagnosed in adults, and getting from undiagnosed to diagnosed stage is often just a matter of going to a psychiatrist - after first overcoming stigma, stereotype, and ADHD-induced problems. Easy peasy. Not.