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I think the term you are looking for is grapheme cluster. https://manishearth.github.io/blog/2017/01/14/stop-ascribing-meaning-to-unicode-code-points/ https://

I think the term you are looking for is grapheme cluster. https://manishearth.github.io/blog/2017/01/14/stop-ascribing-meaning-to-unicode-code-points/ https://manishearth.github.io/blog/2017/01/14/stop-ascribing...

kibwen 5y ago
We're so lazy that we can't even be bothered to type "character" half the time, so "grapheme cluster" has no chance to catch on unless we can think of a "char"-style abbreviation. I'll start the bikeshed with "gracl", but ambitious folks may wish to argue for "clog" ("cluster of graphemes").
- pbiggar 5y ago
  It's really an Extended Grapheme Cluster. In our codebase (Darklang) we abbreviate it to EGC.
- irrational 5y ago
  How about graph? One character longer than char and probably not already in use in the area of computer science.
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  - Zababa 5y ago
    Is this sarcasm?
    - StavrosK 5y ago
      Almost certainly a joke.
      - akiselev 5y ago
        I laughed for a good two minutes. Still laughing cause I can't tell whether he's talking about nodes or vertices
        lupire 5y ago
        Node because that's not a major software term yet.
- lloeki 5y ago
  Is that what Go uses "rune" for? https://golangdocs.com/rune-in-golang https://golangdocs.com/rune-in-golang
  - _nalply 5y ago
    No, because a grapheme cluster is à where the letter is combined by a and ` which are two Unicode Scalar Values. A Go rune is more like one Unicode Scalar Value. However, be careful, terminology is subtle: what is a Code Point, what a Scalar Value, etc.
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
    No. A "rune" is one codepoint, Golang just decided that they can't use the same name as everyone else (as is tradition in Go).
- zzt123 5y ago
  character…grapheme cluster… Charster!
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- homarp 5y ago
  clugr 'sounds' better than clog though (unless you want to evoke pipe somehow)... clugr evokes more Freddy to me
- contradistinct 5y ago
  Elixir uses the term grapheme already: https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/1.12/String.html#graphemes/1 https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/1.12/String.html#graphemes/1
wahern 5y ago
Unicode uses the term grapheme cluster to emphasize the fact that it can be composed of a cluster of codepoints, and perhaps also to distinguish it from the linguistic term grapheme. But ultimately in the context of Unicode I think you could just get away with using grapheme. That's what Perl did when it invented Normalization Form Grapheme (NFG).

kibwen 5y ago

We're so lazy that we can't even be bothered to type "character" half the time, so "grapheme cluster" has no chance to catch on unless we can think of a "char"-style abbreviation. I'll start the bikeshed with "gracl", but ambitious folks may wish to argue for "clog" ("cluster of graphemes").

pbiggar 5y ago
It's really an Extended Grapheme Cluster. In our codebase (Darklang) we abbreviate it to EGC.
irrational 5y ago
How about graph? One character longer than char and probably not already in use in the area of computer science.
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  [deleted]
- Zababa 5y ago
  Is this sarcasm?
  - StavrosK 5y ago
    Almost certainly a joke.
    - akiselev 5y ago
      I laughed for a good two minutes. Still laughing cause I can't tell whether he's talking about nodes or vertices
      - lupire 5y ago
        Node because that's not a major software term yet.
lloeki 5y ago
Is that what Go uses "rune" for? https://golangdocs.com/rune-in-golang https://golangdocs.com/rune-in-golang
- _nalply 5y ago
  No, because a grapheme cluster is à where the letter is combined by a and ` which are two Unicode Scalar Values. A Go rune is more like one Unicode Scalar Value. However, be careful, terminology is subtle: what is a Code Point, what a Scalar Value, etc.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
  No. A "rune" is one codepoint, Golang just decided that they can't use the same name as everyone else (as is tradition in Go).
zzt123 5y ago
character…grapheme cluster… Charster!
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homarp 5y ago
clugr 'sounds' better than clog though (unless you want to evoke pipe somehow)... clugr evokes more Freddy to me
contradistinct 5y ago
Elixir uses the term grapheme already: https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/1.12/String.html#graphemes/1 https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/1.12/String.html#graphemes/1

wahern 5y ago

Unicode uses the term grapheme cluster to emphasize the fact that it can be composed of a cluster of codepoints, and perhaps also to distinguish it from the linguistic term grapheme. But ultimately in the context of Unicode I think you could just get away with using grapheme. That's what Perl did when it invented Normalization Form Grapheme (NFG).