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Its so fast now, we're killing 50 billion chickens per year to eat. 136 million per day. 1585 per second. More than 1 chicken per millisecond. Start the stopwat

Its so fast now, we're killing 50 billion chickens per year to eat. 136 million per day. 1585 per second. More than 1 chicken per millisecond. Start the stopwatch on your phone and watch those milliseconds fly by. Living breathing creatures raised in tiny cages and never seeing the sky or scratching dirt with their feet.

oftenwrong 5y ago
I don't doubt it, but what is the source of this figure?
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/chart-of-the-day-this-is-how-many-animals-we-eat-each-year/#:~:text=An%20estimated%2050%20billion%20chickens,hens%20killed%20in%20egg%20production https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/chart-of-the-day-this....
kapp_in_life 5y ago
We can barely get people to care about their fellow man, I'm pessimistic about getting people to care about the genocide we commit towards animals on an hourly basis. Edit: And for the record I'm vegan.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  > the genocide we commit towards animals on an hourly basis It's not genocide, by definition, if we have no desire to extinct the species.
  - sweetheart 5y ago
    Holocaust then?
    - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
      Still not quite right; still centers on destruction being the intention. The problem, I think, is that you're reaching for the most emotionally-charged words when they don't actually fit. We don't hate animals; they just taste good. So it's just slaughter on an industrial scale.
      - sweetheart 5y ago
        No, holocaust can be used for slaughter on a large scale too, so it’s a completely accurate use of the term.
- beerandt 5y ago
  The population of beef cattle isn't going to go up if everyone stops eating steaks and hamburgers.
qq4 5y ago
Sometimes I wonder how many microorganisms I kill when I wash my hands.
- codeulike 5y ago
  Well at least those microorganisms had a chance of a normal life, and you did the killing yourself. What gets me about factory farming is the complete hopelessness of an animal born into a factory, reduced by us to being an inconvenient ingredient and nothing more, and how all of that is hidden from the consumer as much as possible, outsourced to a faceless machine. Here you go; the chicken scene from Baraka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQhn8RW0Nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQhn8RW0Nk
  - qq4 5y ago
    What's a normal life? I've seen the chicken scene, and I've killed a chicken with my bare hands. I've clubbed a fish and cleaned it. I'm not afraid of where my food comes from. Chickens don't have hope, and I don't project that feeling onto them, just like I don't with microorganisms. Why do you think what you're saying is negative? If this trend tends to infinity we raise chickens instantly and vaporize them into cooked chicken in a blink of an eye.
    - codeulike 5y ago
      Chickens want things. They want to walk around the scratch the ground. If you make a noise they'll run away from you - they dont want to get eaten by a fox. Your comment about microorganisms is about 'where to draw the line' and your comment about 'tend to infinity' implies you like the 'appeal to extremes' form of argument. I'm interested in what we're doing in the world now and I'm happy to suggest where a line should be drawn. I'm not worried about absolutes.
      - qq4 5y ago
        > Your comment about microorganisms is about 'where to draw the line' and your comment about 'tend to infinity' implies you like the 'appeal to extremes' form of argument. I would say that's accurate. I think extremes can bring out honest positions in an argument. Where would you suggest we draw a line? How long should a chicken live before we decide to kill it?

oftenwrong 5y ago

I don't doubt it, but what is the source of this figure?

MattGaiser 5y ago
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/chart-of-the-day-this-is-how-many-animals-we-eat-each-year/#:~:text=An%20estimated%2050%20billion%20chickens,hens%20killed%20in%20egg%20production https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/chart-of-the-day-this....

kapp_in_life 5y ago

We can barely get people to care about their fellow man, I'm pessimistic about getting people to care about the genocide we commit towards animals on an hourly basis. Edit: And for the record I'm vegan.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
> the genocide we commit towards animals on an hourly basis It's not genocide, by definition, if we have no desire to extinct the species.
- sweetheart 5y ago
  Holocaust then?
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    Still not quite right; still centers on destruction being the intention. The problem, I think, is that you're reaching for the most emotionally-charged words when they don't actually fit. We don't hate animals; they just taste good. So it's just slaughter on an industrial scale.
    - sweetheart 5y ago
      No, holocaust can be used for slaughter on a large scale too, so it’s a completely accurate use of the term.
beerandt 5y ago
The population of beef cattle isn't going to go up if everyone stops eating steaks and hamburgers.

qq4 5y ago

Sometimes I wonder how many microorganisms I kill when I wash my hands.

codeulike 5y ago
Well at least those microorganisms had a chance of a normal life, and you did the killing yourself. What gets me about factory farming is the complete hopelessness of an animal born into a factory, reduced by us to being an inconvenient ingredient and nothing more, and how all of that is hidden from the consumer as much as possible, outsourced to a faceless machine. Here you go; the chicken scene from Baraka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQhn8RW0Nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQhn8RW0Nk
- qq4 5y ago
  What's a normal life? I've seen the chicken scene, and I've killed a chicken with my bare hands. I've clubbed a fish and cleaned it. I'm not afraid of where my food comes from. Chickens don't have hope, and I don't project that feeling onto them, just like I don't with microorganisms. Why do you think what you're saying is negative? If this trend tends to infinity we raise chickens instantly and vaporize them into cooked chicken in a blink of an eye.
  - codeulike 5y ago
    Chickens want things. They want to walk around the scratch the ground. If you make a noise they'll run away from you - they dont want to get eaten by a fox. Your comment about microorganisms is about 'where to draw the line' and your comment about 'tend to infinity' implies you like the 'appeal to extremes' form of argument. I'm interested in what we're doing in the world now and I'm happy to suggest where a line should be drawn. I'm not worried about absolutes.
    - qq4 5y ago
      > Your comment about microorganisms is about 'where to draw the line' and your comment about 'tend to infinity' implies you like the 'appeal to extremes' form of argument. I would say that's accurate. I think extremes can bring out honest positions in an argument. Where would you suggest we draw a line? How long should a chicken live before we decide to kill it?