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> We've reversed a lot of that destruction in the past century. Not even close, where are you getting that from? > Unless you're suggesting we all go back to

> We've reversed a lot of that destruction in the past century. Not even close, where are you getting that from? > Unless you're suggesting we all go back to some sort of nomadic lifestyle? US car culture is the first thing I’d put on the chopping block. The US military and billionaires as a class are the two highest polluting entities on the planet. Lots of additional gains to be had there. I would classify very little of our wonton destruction of the environment as “necessary evil”. > You're benefiting daily from that growth and your modern lifestyle (in 1st world countries) is far above what people enjoyed even half a century ago. I wonder if all the men who have lowered sperm counts agree with you…

CountDrewku 5y ago
>Not even close, where are you getting that from? Seriously? I'm not gonna do your work for you but look up reforestation efforts, ozone hole closing, re-population of once devastated animals, pollution etc. I mean you'd have to be completely ignorant or purposely seeking a specific agenda to miss this stuff. Are you suggesting nothing has improved in the last 50 years and we're on a continuous decline? >US car culture is the first thing I’d put on the chopping block. The US military and billionaires as a class are the two highest polluting entities on the planet. Lots of additional gains to be had there. What? This such a lame political response devoid of any better alternatives. Show us numbers and propose an alternative that's better. Please show us the sources that billionaires and the US military are the highest polluting entities on the planet. That's obvious bs propaganda. >I wonder if all the men who have lowered sperm counts agree with you… Your measure for whether we're doing better than the past is sperm count? Huh? You seem to be suffering from something recently coined progressophobia. I get there are problems but this strange denialism and refusal to admit we've progressed at all is not only wrong, it's harmful to society as a whole.
- luffapi 5y ago
  Ah so you don’t have sources. I do though. US Military: https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than-140-countries-combined/ https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than... Billionaires: https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change/amp https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change/amp
  - CountDrewku 5y ago
    > If the US military were a country, its fuel usage alone would make it the 47th largest emitter of greenhouse gases in the world, sitting between Peru and Portugal. You said largest so you were wrong. Try again. The second link is absolutely laughable. Gee large industries create more carbon footprint! No shit, that has nothing to do specifically with billionaires. Try getting your news from somewhere else other than GQ. GQ and QZ aren't legitimate scientific sources bud.
    - luffapi 5y ago
      We’ll, you provided no sources and no informed critique of my sources, so I’ll just take the win here.

CountDrewku 5y ago

>Not even close, where are you getting that from? Seriously? I'm not gonna do your work for you but look up reforestation efforts, ozone hole closing, re-population of once devastated animals, pollution etc. I mean you'd have to be completely ignorant or purposely seeking a specific agenda to miss this stuff. Are you suggesting nothing has improved in the last 50 years and we're on a continuous decline? >US car culture is the first thing I’d put on the chopping block. The US military and billionaires as a class are the two highest polluting entities on the planet. Lots of additional gains to be had there. What? This such a lame political response devoid of any better alternatives. Show us numbers and propose an alternative that's better. Please show us the sources that billionaires and the US military are the highest polluting entities on the planet. That's obvious bs propaganda. >I wonder if all the men who have lowered sperm counts agree with you… Your measure for whether we're doing better than the past is sperm count? Huh? You seem to be suffering from something recently coined progressophobia. I get there are problems but this strange denialism and refusal to admit we've progressed at all is not only wrong, it's harmful to society as a whole.

luffapi 5y ago
Ah so you don’t have sources. I do though. US Military: https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than-140-countries-combined/ https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than... Billionaires: https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change/amp https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change/amp
- CountDrewku 5y ago
  > If the US military were a country, its fuel usage alone would make it the 47th largest emitter of greenhouse gases in the world, sitting between Peru and Portugal. You said largest so you were wrong. Try again. The second link is absolutely laughable. Gee large industries create more carbon footprint! No shit, that has nothing to do specifically with billionaires. Try getting your news from somewhere else other than GQ. GQ and QZ aren't legitimate scientific sources bud.
  - luffapi 5y ago
    We’ll, you provided no sources and no informed critique of my sources, so I’ll just take the win here.