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That's what I'm trying to figure out too. The narrative is the biggest change so far. Low quality videos and eye witness reports aren't exactly new. Sam Harris

That's what I'm trying to figure out too. The narrative is the biggest change so far. Low quality videos and eye witness reports aren't exactly new. Sam Harris, who I consider trustworthy, was given a heads up about what's to come: "I got contacted by somebody who gave me a heads up with respect to all of this happening and he more or less told me listen, when this other shoe drops you’re going to be in the position of having to acknowledge that all the experts are on the same page, and there’s just this blanket declaration that we’re in the presence of alien technology, and we don’t know what to make of it. So prepare your brain for that and figure out what you’re going to do." https://samharris.org/podcasts/252-alone-universe/ https://samharris.org/podcasts/252-alone-universe/

zozbot234 5y ago
Except that I'm not sure that there's any real mention of alien technology in the report. It's just the same old where we're seeing interesting reports about not-fully-understood optical phenomena, and people in the popular press are pattern-matching it to little green men from outer space.
- 252452d 5y ago
  Do you think that optical phenomena show up on radar? I know what they are. They're real and they're spectacular, wait until you see one of these cylinders...
- throwkeep 5y ago
  Not yet, that's apparently coming, assuming Sam is correct about his source being reliable. If that's the case, what we're seeing now is a slow rollout. Presumably to get the population comfortable with officials talking about UFOs, instead of jumping immediately from denial to confirming alien tech.
  - zozbot234 5y ago
    That's the point, there's always been "trusted sources" from wherever claiming that exciting disclosures were just around the corner. Like I said, it's the same old. If anything, this official report is evidence to the contrary because what better place to start revealing this stuff if there was anything at all to it? But no, for the benefit of any exobiologists in the audience, it even goes out of its way to argue against the alien-origins theory for these phenomena.
    - 252452d 5y ago
      ...you continue to talk after already revealing that you don't even know the basics of the topic.

zozbot234 5y ago

Except that I'm not sure that there's any real mention of alien technology in the report. It's just the same old where we're seeing interesting reports about not-fully-understood optical phenomena, and people in the popular press are pattern-matching it to little green men from outer space.

252452d 5y ago
Do you think that optical phenomena show up on radar? I know what they are. They're real and they're spectacular, wait until you see one of these cylinders...
throwkeep 5y ago
Not yet, that's apparently coming, assuming Sam is correct about his source being reliable. If that's the case, what we're seeing now is a slow rollout. Presumably to get the population comfortable with officials talking about UFOs, instead of jumping immediately from denial to confirming alien tech.
- zozbot234 5y ago
  That's the point, there's always been "trusted sources" from wherever claiming that exciting disclosures were just around the corner. Like I said, it's the same old. If anything, this official report is evidence to the contrary because what better place to start revealing this stuff if there was anything at all to it? But no, for the benefit of any exobiologists in the audience, it even goes out of its way to argue against the alien-origins theory for these phenomena.
  - 252452d 5y ago
    ...you continue to talk after already revealing that you don't even know the basics of the topic.