>Firstly: I don’t see punishment as separate from deterrence. I think the simplest way to see the difference between punishment and deterrence is in nature. W

>Firstly: I don’t see punishment as separate from deterrence. I think the simplest way to see the difference between punishment and deterrence is in nature. We learn not to touch a hot stove by getting our hand burnt. It's usually not very painful, but because it happens immediately and every single time we quickly figure out that touching a hot anything is a bad idea. This creates deterrence without a heavy punishment. Sometimes a heavy punishment can also cause deference by itself though. Eg messing around with mains electricity. You probably won't get shocked if you're careful, but if you do then the damage can be very severe.