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Does this mean that all DDoS mitigation techniques need to exist before the exit node of this traffic? Which in turn mean, that everyone needs to outsource thei
by bhaavan 5y ago
Does this mean that all DDoS mitigation techniques need to exist before the exit node of this traffic? Which in turn mean, that everyone needs to outsource their DDoS mitigation to Apple.
Also the corollary would be, that anyone who is able to bypass the protection mechanisms Apple has in place to control DDoS, can use it to DDoS a service like Google, Microsoft and get the entire service banned for all iCloud+ users. Right?
- gjsman-1000 5y agoApple has sort of addressed this with only having it work with Safari and other apps that implement the API, rather than system-wide as something you can connect to. It’s probably going to take a lot of reverse engineering before hackers figure out the API and how to get third party devices to connect and authenticate, if at all. If you can’t get third party devices to connect, you are missing the first D in DDOS.
- mariojv 5y agoThere is also almost certainly an authentication mechanism in place, even if you were to reverse engineer the API. You'd need a bunch of paid iCloud accounts to have a DDoS be at all feasible with this service. Additionally, Cloudflare themselves, one of Apple's third party partners, offer DDoS protection services. Because they see all the exit traffic, they'd be able to detect the DDoS and block it.
- Ensorceled 5y agoThat's why this concern seemed weird to me; the exit nodes ARE the DDoS protection services. I can't see Cloudflare putting themselves in the position of needed to protect their clients from themselves ...
- gjsman-1000 5y agoOtherwise, by the poster’s logic, why hasn’t CloudFlare been a DDoS vector?
- Ensorceled 5y agoWhy are you assuming this can, and will, be readily used as a DDoS vector?