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This is correct, and it's honestly why I'm so depressed - I wish I had the innate ability to get into Facebook or Google. I make just $200k as a mid-level.

jrowley 5y ago
A salary of 200k still puts you in the 95th percentile in the US. Don’t be too sad!
kilodeca 5y ago
https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/01/Megacorps-are-not-your-dream-job.html https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/01/Megacorps-are-not-your-dr...
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  This is all fair and true but I'm already at a megacorp so :/
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kilodeca 5y ago
You make 200k a year still depressed. I have no job.
aprdm 5y ago
$200k is an absolutely great salary, congrats ! :)
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  It's my total compensation, and unfortunately I don't think many people agree with you. It's a pretty standard TC for new grads even though I'm nearly 3 years in.
  - aprdm 5y ago
    I don't need people to agree with me. There's the USA salaries survey and whatnot that shows you're in the very top.
cercatrova 5y ago
Innate ability? It's not innate, you have to grind Leetcode and work for it, just like the vast majority of big tech company employees. The number of people who could pass a technical interview with no prior preparation whatsoever is vanishingly few as to be negligible.
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  I don't know anybody that's done more leetcode problems than me and has gotten a good offer. I do know plenty that have done far fewer than me and have gotten a lot of them though (at FB, Google etc). I also know a few that have done orders of magnitude more and yet still work at IBM-tier companies. "Grinding leetcode" is not as easy you you seem to think. To low IQ people like me, it's literally pulling teeth because it's just a reminder of how stupid we are. Yet I've still done a few hundred, not that it has helped me get any impressive offers. I've never seen any evidence that you can just learn these things - most people just seem to practice a handful and then nail a bunch of offers.
  - deanmoriarty 5y ago
    I have to agree with you. I have done hundreds of leetcode, and every new one (or old one) is just a slap in the face. It’s not about practice. Some people, while being productive developers, just cannot effectively be leetcoders despite the effort. I am in that camp. This is not illogical. I couldn’t become a professional basketball player even if I exercised every day :-). Eventually I gave up and these were my strategies for finding high comp offers: 1) Go for SRE roles: Google SRE, Facebook Production Engineer. The work is interesting, interviews are going to be domain specific (Linux, networking, … as opposed to leetcode), pay is the same (the offers I mentioned above were for FAANG SRE roles). 2) Enter to a company that doesn’t do leetcode but still pays highly. Like a hedge fund (that’s how I found my current job). It’s going to be a grind, but you do get those high comps. Once you do decide to not look at leetcode ever again, it will be very liberating.
    - rejectedandsad 5y ago

jrowley 5y ago

A salary of 200k still puts you in the 95th percentile in the US. Don’t be too sad!

kilodeca 5y ago

https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/01/Megacorps-are-not-your-dream-job.html https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/01/Megacorps-are-not-your-dr...

rejectedandsad 5y ago
This is all fair and true but I'm already at a megacorp so :/
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kilodeca 5y ago

You make 200k a year still depressed. I have no job.

aprdm 5y ago

$200k is an absolutely great salary, congrats ! :)

rejectedandsad 5y ago
It's my total compensation, and unfortunately I don't think many people agree with you. It's a pretty standard TC for new grads even though I'm nearly 3 years in.
- aprdm 5y ago
  I don't need people to agree with me. There's the USA salaries survey and whatnot that shows you're in the very top.

cercatrova 5y ago

Innate ability? It's not innate, you have to grind Leetcode and work for it, just like the vast majority of big tech company employees. The number of people who could pass a technical interview with no prior preparation whatsoever is vanishingly few as to be negligible.

rejectedandsad 5y ago
I don't know anybody that's done more leetcode problems than me and has gotten a good offer. I do know plenty that have done far fewer than me and have gotten a lot of them though (at FB, Google etc). I also know a few that have done orders of magnitude more and yet still work at IBM-tier companies. "Grinding leetcode" is not as easy you you seem to think. To low IQ people like me, it's literally pulling teeth because it's just a reminder of how stupid we are. Yet I've still done a few hundred, not that it has helped me get any impressive offers. I've never seen any evidence that you can just learn these things - most people just seem to practice a handful and then nail a bunch of offers.
- deanmoriarty 5y ago
  I have to agree with you. I have done hundreds of leetcode, and every new one (or old one) is just a slap in the face. It’s not about practice. Some people, while being productive developers, just cannot effectively be leetcoders despite the effort. I am in that camp. This is not illogical. I couldn’t become a professional basketball player even if I exercised every day :-). Eventually I gave up and these were my strategies for finding high comp offers: 1) Go for SRE roles: Google SRE, Facebook Production Engineer. The work is interesting, interviews are going to be domain specific (Linux, networking, … as opposed to leetcode), pay is the same (the offers I mentioned above were for FAANG SRE roles). 2) Enter to a company that doesn’t do leetcode but still pays highly. Like a hedge fund (that’s how I found my current job). It’s going to be a grind, but you do get those high comps. Once you do decide to not look at leetcode ever again, it will be very liberating.
  - rejectedandsad 5y ago