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I find it kind of strange just how dedicated "Artem Karimov" is to getting this page deleted. In addition, the rule that's quoted, "Notability is inherited", i

I find it kind of strange just how dedicated "Artem Karimov" is to getting this page deleted. In addition, the rule that's quoted, "Notability is inherited", is a bit strange - people are notable because of things they do. For example, I doubt that J.K. Rowling would be considered "notable" if it wasn't for the fact that she created Harry Potter. I fail to see why the same argument can't be applied here. However, I shall end with a disclaimer: I don't edit Wikipedia at all, and I'm sure there are nuances that I'm missing. Still strange, though.

hackinthebochs 15y ago
"Notability is not inherited" makes perfect sense. Doing something notable doesn't make you notable. Doing many notable things might make you notable. Doing something that is supremely notable might make you notable. Clojure clearly doesn't qualify.
- warmfuzzykitten 15y ago
  I call bullshit. Please remove your wiki page for Grace Metalious. She never did anything but write a few trashy novels. I came up with that example in about two seconds. I'm pretty sure I could go on all day. Notability _is_ inherited. Except of course in the case of Wikipedia editors, whose contributions are minute and often negative.
  - hackinthebochs 15y ago
    Are those novels notable? Then by my definition she would gain notability for that. As a general rule, if the only interesting information about a person is that they did X, then they do not deserve a page of their own. It adds no useful knowledge. Now that I think of it, that is really what this is about. Does having a page about this guy that basically says he created clojure add anything useful to the world? It's clear in this case it doesn't. At least nothing that couldn't be said in the clojure article. Knowledge is about organization (it could be argued that knowledge literally is organizing information). Does having an article about a guy whose sole notable accomplishment is clojure help to increase knowledge, ie increase organization of information? No, there is nothing to organize. For your Grace Metalious example, having a page that organizes her notable accomplishments is in fact adding knowledge to the world.
warmfuzzykitten 15y ago
Why is BTW an 18-year old student from Moscow, the very definition of not notable.

hackinthebochs 15y ago

"Notability is not inherited" makes perfect sense. Doing something notable doesn't make you notable. Doing many notable things might make you notable. Doing something that is supremely notable might make you notable. Clojure clearly doesn't qualify.

warmfuzzykitten 15y ago
I call bullshit. Please remove your wiki page for Grace Metalious. She never did anything but write a few trashy novels. I came up with that example in about two seconds. I'm pretty sure I could go on all day. Notability _is_ inherited. Except of course in the case of Wikipedia editors, whose contributions are minute and often negative.
- hackinthebochs 15y ago
  Are those novels notable? Then by my definition she would gain notability for that. As a general rule, if the only interesting information about a person is that they did X, then they do not deserve a page of their own. It adds no useful knowledge. Now that I think of it, that is really what this is about. Does having a page about this guy that basically says he created clojure add anything useful to the world? It's clear in this case it doesn't. At least nothing that couldn't be said in the clojure article. Knowledge is about organization (it could be argued that knowledge literally is organizing information). Does having an article about a guy whose sole notable accomplishment is clojure help to increase knowledge, ie increase organization of information? No, there is nothing to organize. For your Grace Metalious example, having a page that organizes her notable accomplishments is in fact adding knowledge to the world.

warmfuzzykitten 15y ago

Why is BTW an 18-year old student from Moscow, the very definition of not notable.