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If you read about the Ancient Greeks, you will necessarily read about Ancient Persia. If you read about Ancient Persia, you will hear of Zoroastrianism. But th

by cafard 5y ago

If you read about the Ancient Greeks, you will necessarily read about Ancient Persia. If you read about Ancient Persia, you will hear of Zoroastrianism. But that's not necessarily to say that you're wrong.

triceratops 5y ago
The average person's knowledge of ancient Greece and Persia doesn't extend far beyond 300 and other sword and sandal type epics. They think of Greek deities as ancient history. Worship of the Greek pantheon isn't a mainstream thing. They probably don't give any thought to the ancient Persians' religion. Certainly I don't imagine most people know it's still around. EDIT: Were the Achaemenid Persians (the "bad" guys in 300) even Zoroastrian? Or did Zoroastrianism come later?
- yazaddaruvala 5y ago
  The story of 300 depicts the Persians in a very negative way lol. They don’t seem at all Zoroastrian in the movie (multiple idols, and weird rituals, no likeness of anything Zoroastrian shows up). It’s a great movie tho! In reality those Persians were Zoroastrian, at least in name. I say “in name” because the Battle of Thermopylae (i.e. 300) would have been 500-2000 years after the creation of the Zoroastrian religion[0], I’m sure more than a little was altered/forgotten. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire [0] We don’t have much recorded history that dates back that far and it’s a matter of academic debate when exactly the religion started.
  - triceratops 5y ago
    > The story of 300 depicts the Persians in a very negative way lol For sure. The movie's framing device is a Spartan soldier recounting a glorified version of the Battle of Thermopylae, and building up Leonidas as a heroic figure, as a way to fire up the troops for the next battle against the Persians. That's why I put "bad" in quotes - it's Spartan propaganda.
wahern 5y ago
Most Christians would at least be familiar with a few Zoroastrian figures--the Magi (aka Wisemen) who bring gifts for the baby Jesus. Magi, or at least a mythology of them, had been considered peculiarly knowledgeable and wise since at least Aristotle.

by cafard 5y ago

triceratops 5y ago

The average person's knowledge of ancient Greece and Persia doesn't extend far beyond 300 and other sword and sandal type epics. They think of Greek deities as ancient history. Worship of the Greek pantheon isn't a mainstream thing. They probably don't give any thought to the ancient Persians' religion. Certainly I don't imagine most people know it's still around. EDIT: Were the Achaemenid Persians (the "bad" guys in 300) even Zoroastrian? Or did Zoroastrianism come later?

yazaddaruvala 5y ago
The story of 300 depicts the Persians in a very negative way lol. They don’t seem at all Zoroastrian in the movie (multiple idols, and weird rituals, no likeness of anything Zoroastrian shows up). It’s a great movie tho! In reality those Persians were Zoroastrian, at least in name. I say “in name” because the Battle of Thermopylae (i.e. 300) would have been 500-2000 years after the creation of the Zoroastrian religion[0], I’m sure more than a little was altered/forgotten. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire [0] We don’t have much recorded history that dates back that far and it’s a matter of academic debate when exactly the religion started.
- triceratops 5y ago
  > The story of 300 depicts the Persians in a very negative way lol For sure. The movie's framing device is a Spartan soldier recounting a glorified version of the Battle of Thermopylae, and building up Leonidas as a heroic figure, as a way to fire up the troops for the next battle against the Persians. That's why I put "bad" in quotes - it's Spartan propaganda.

wahern 5y ago

Most Christians would at least be familiar with a few Zoroastrian figures--the Magi (aka Wisemen) who bring gifts for the baby Jesus. Magi, or at least a mythology of them, had been considered peculiarly knowledgeable and wise since at least Aristotle.