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The PDF is at https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab519/6294073 https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid... : So

by sct202 5y ago

The PDF is at https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab519/6294073 https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid... : Some details of the positive test collection dates by state: *Illinois Jan 7, Jan 20, Jan 22, Feb 21, Feb 24 *Massachusetts Jan 8 *Wisconsin Feb 3 *Pennsylvania Feb 15 *Mississippi Mar 6 5 were Black, 2 were Latino/Hispanic, 2 were White Page 20 shows that there was a lot of unbalance for the states with samples. Texas for example only had 84 samples processed, but Illinois had 2,426.

teknopaul 5y ago
re:Black, Latino/Hispanic, White. Only in the US is speaking Spanish considered a race. I had to ask if I was Hispanic. I speak Spanish, live in Spain but I was told told its just the official racist term for Mexicans. N. B. there is no reason for them to even ask if you are or are not. And no, I could not chose to be Hispanic: its a term assigned to you. Some Spanish nationals are Hispanic some are not. Some Mexicans are not Hispanic. It does not matter where you were born or the colour of your skin. Its _official_ racism, they decide if you are or are not Hispanic and if they decide you are and you thought you were not, or vice versa, you can be banned from entry into the US forever for "lying" on the visa form. That is institutional racism taken to the doublethink level.
- mandelbrotwurst 5y ago
  Are you sure? Are the standards for who qualifies according to the law documented somewhere? I always thought that you’re legally able to self-identify however you deem accurate on those government forms in the U.S?
- Wohlf 5y ago
  Latino/Hispanic is not considered a race by the US government, it's an ethnic group. Latino covers all people of Latin descent including native Spaniards and Portuguese.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Only in the US is speaking Spanish considered a race. No, its not. Hispanic is not a race, but an ethnic category independent of race. And it doesn’t mean “speaking Spanish”, it means: “a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race.” [0] > but I was told told its just the official racist term for Mexicans. Told by whom? Obviously this is deeply false. It also contradicts your later claim that: > Some Mexicans are not Hispanic. So, I'm not clear what your story is, is it that it is just an "official racist" code for "Mexican" or is it …something else? > Its _official_ racism, they decide if you are or are not Hispanic and if they decide you are and you thought you were not, or vice versa, you can be banned from entry into the US forever for “lying” on the visa form. Neither the immigrant nor non-immigrant visa application form asks for ethnicity in general or Hispanic origin in particular. [1][2] [0] See, e.g., the Census page on it, even though the policy is government-wide where race/ethnic data is collected, under OMB directive: https://www.census.gov/topics/population/hispanic-origin/about.html https://www.census.gov/topics/population/hispanic-origin/abo... [1] nonimmigrant: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/PDF-other/DS-160-Example_11012019.pdf https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/PDF-other/DS-160-... [2] immigrant: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/DS-260-Exemplar.pdf https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/DS-260-Exemplar.p...

by sct202 5y ago

teknopaul 5y ago

re:Black, Latino/Hispanic, White. Only in the US is speaking Spanish considered a race. I had to ask if I was Hispanic. I speak Spanish, live in Spain but I was told told its just the official racist term for Mexicans. N. B. there is no reason for them to even ask if you are or are not. And no, I could not chose to be Hispanic: its a term assigned to you. Some Spanish nationals are Hispanic some are not. Some Mexicans are not Hispanic. It does not matter where you were born or the colour of your skin. Its _official_ racism, they decide if you are or are not Hispanic and if they decide you are and you thought you were not, or vice versa, you can be banned from entry into the US forever for "lying" on the visa form. That is institutional racism taken to the doublethink level.

mandelbrotwurst 5y ago
Are you sure? Are the standards for who qualifies according to the law documented somewhere? I always thought that you’re legally able to self-identify however you deem accurate on those government forms in the U.S?
Wohlf 5y ago
Latino/Hispanic is not considered a race by the US government, it's an ethnic group. Latino covers all people of Latin descent including native Spaniards and Portuguese.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> Only in the US is speaking Spanish considered a race. No, its not. Hispanic is not a race, but an ethnic category independent of race. And it doesn’t mean “speaking Spanish”, it means: “a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race.” [0] > but I was told told its just the official racist term for Mexicans. Told by whom? Obviously this is deeply false. It also contradicts your later claim that: > Some Mexicans are not Hispanic. So, I'm not clear what your story is, is it that it is just an "official racist" code for "Mexican" or is it …something else? > Its _official_ racism, they decide if you are or are not Hispanic and if they decide you are and you thought you were not, or vice versa, you can be banned from entry into the US forever for “lying” on the visa form. Neither the immigrant nor non-immigrant visa application form asks for ethnicity in general or Hispanic origin in particular. [1][2] [0] See, e.g., the Census page on it, even though the policy is government-wide where race/ethnic data is collected, under OMB directive: https://www.census.gov/topics/population/hispanic-origin/about.html https://www.census.gov/topics/population/hispanic-origin/abo... [1] nonimmigrant: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/PDF-other/DS-160-Example_11012019.pdf https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/PDF-other/DS-160-... [2] immigrant: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/DS-260-Exemplar.pdf https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/DS-260-Exemplar.p...