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My desktop computer -which doubles as my workstation- is going to be 10 years old soon. The replacements during these years make it a beast to this day, it beat
by mkl95 5y ago
My desktop computer -which doubles as my workstation- is going to be 10 years old soon. The replacements during these years make it a beast to this day, it beats a $5000 Macbook Pro into a pulp for a fraction of the price. I'm not considering ditching it for now.
- savant_penguin 5y agoMostly any pc you build with much less than $5k will beat a $5k MacBook pro
- mkl95 5y agoIn my experience, it beats mid to high tier iMacs as well. Those things get clunky for no reason.
- zten 5y agoiMacs are usually laptops in all but name. To hit the same thinness with a giant heat-producing screen, most of the parts are their mobile equivalents. Edit: on slightly closer inspection, this isn't true for the 27" models!
- mhh__ 5y agoThank god for them being thin, I actually had to throw away my 2013 iMac because it was just unbearable reading my emails with x-ray vision and noticing just how thick it is.
- asdff 5y agoWhat is hilarious is that the thin imac weighs the same 20lbs as the one that was a few inches thicker and had better cooling and user replaceable parts.
- kitsunesoba 5y agoThe 27" models have traditionally used off the shelf socketed CPUs though, which is unusual in AIOs. Regular 27" models use desktop i9s and the Pro uses a desktop Xeon. Both can technically have their CPUs upgraded even if opening them is a pain.
- zten 5y agoAh, cool. I was too focused on the GPUs! edit: which... actually appear to be the desktop-named parts! I swear this wasn't always the case...
- bitwize 5y agoWhen the M2 Mac Pro drops, the tables will turn: no PC will even nearly match it.
- baconshirt 5y agoCute
- TedDoesntTalk 5y agoI don’t see how that is possible. Desktop PCs have almost unlimited space — cases can be measured in cubic feet. MacBooks are always space constrained because of their case size and weight minimizing, so there is an inherent disadvantage in the size of components like graphics boards. And a size disadvantage means fewer transistors and less cooling.
- function_seven 5y agoParent is referring to Mac Pro (the desktop). I blame Apple's product line branding for this confusion. I make the same mistake all the time.
- asdff 5y agoTo be fair the mac pro went through its own horrible shrinkage phase where it was not much larger than my $50 air filter. The old aluminum case used to be pretty large and pretty spacious internally, with many extra bays waiting for you to give them purpose. Not sure how the newest one stacks up to the first mac pro/mac g5 case.
- system2 5y agoSo an M2 can beat a AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX or a dual CPU mobo tower with 128gb ram, also a PCI nvme? LOL right.
- 988747 5y agoI do not see why not - performance of Apple processors is insane.
- grobibi 5y agoMy M1 Air renders and edits 4k as well as my ryzen 3700x with 64 gigs of ram and a samsung nvme. It loses out in encoding though. I cant get the same quality/size ratio with VideoToolBox as I can with NVENC.
- TchoBeer 5y agois it as portable as a macbook pro?
- pretendscholar 5y agoDo you really think they wouldn't acknowledge the upsides of a laptop? Why is that relevant to raw flops/dollar?
- mkl95 5y agoPortability is not a problem, my employer provides me with a powerful laptop that I keep permanently. They are different tools that serve me in different situations.
- hawski 5y agoI have a Macbook Pro (though 15") and a PC, but also a ridiculously underpowered Chromebook with a crappy 11" 1366x768 screen. Lately I find myself when I'm on the run in the city to grab the Chromebook and ssh to my desktop (I've got Zerotier set up). This is my ultimate portable duo. It could be better, but it is lightweight, battery runs full day and I have all power I need. Then when I get back I have it even better with less latency.
- TedDoesntTalk 5y agoWhat’s old is new again! This is how mainframe terminals worked.
- hawski 5y agoThat's a setup I wanted for quite some time and I know it was available for some time, but ubiquitous fast and cheap wireless Internet is something new I guess, also with all-day batteries all in a lightweight package.
- my_usernam3 5y agoCan you explain further? I'm guessing you mean once a mainframe's resources were outdated, it became a terminal?
- smoldesu 5y agoI built an $800 budget PC 7 years ago, it beats my M1 Macbook Air in Blender renders by about 20%
- yabones 5y agoThe place desktops will always win is sustained performance. Sure, a $5000 Mac can run very fast in sprints, but as soon as it's loaded up and running at 100% CPU for more than a couple minutes it's going to start throttling. That's pretty much unavoidable for a mobile computer - there's only so much space to move air around. Processors are just fancy ways to convert electricity to heat when it comes down to it, and desktops have lots of surface area to dissipate that heat. The only laptop I've ever owned that had good sustained performance was a Dell Precision workstation machine[1] which could run at quad core i7 full load at 3.8 GHz for hours thanks to its pair of massive internal blower fans. [1] https://www.myfixguide.com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/dell-precision%20m4800-disassembly-1.jpg https://www.myfixguide.com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2014/05...
- forinti 5y agoUpgrading a 10 yo computer (maxing RAM, swapping HD for SSD, adding a Graphics Card) is a lot cheaper than buying a basic new one and the result is a lot better.