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It’s part of why capitalism was restored as part of a coup in my country in 89. Millions are far poorer for it.

by lucian1900 5y ago

sudosysgen 5y ago
I don't understand why this is downvoted. Capitalism was in fact restored undemocratically and against the wish of the majority and millions of people literally died from that. Just because you personally like capitalism doesn't mean that forcing it as part of coup which led to millions of death isn't an atrocity. And yes propaganda was part of it.
- whythre 5y ago
  For generations many of the critics of socialism were sent to camps and/or shot. I would find it unsurprising that there were few people voting against socialism; the regime spent such significant time and effort to silence supporters of every other system of government.
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    And yet those same critics found themselves at the head of the communist party and executed a coup. This is not an excuse to destroy and society a replace it with whatever you choose against the will of its inhabitants. It's just an excuse for more dictatorial behaviour.
- lucian1900 5y ago
  I’ve found almost any anti-imperialist or pro-socialist comments get downvoted on HN. It’s not that surprising considering the class character of the site, most are or aspire to be owners exploiting the labour of workers.
l33t2328 5y ago
What country?
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  In many countries of the Warsaw Pact there was much more support for the continuation of socialism than for free market capitalism, though sometimes a mixed economy as was advocated by Gorbachev was more popular. So it could have been very many.
- lucian1900 5y ago
  România in my case. Having spoken to many people older than myself, they mostly wanted the west to allow trade, not capitalism. Some listened to Radio Free Europe; some of what was transmitted was clearly false to them, other things were unclear and merely created doubt. Almost all believe that 89 was a US-backed coup, some even recount anecdotes about English speaking men breaking shop windows or filming.

It’s part of why capitalism was restored as part of a coup in my country in 89. Millions are far poorer for it.

I don't understand why this is downvoted. Capitalism was in fact restored undemocratically and against the wish of the majority and millions of people literally died from that. Just because you personally like capitalism doesn't mean that forcing it as part of coup which led to millions of death isn't an atrocity. And yes propaganda was part of it.

whythre 5y ago
For generations many of the critics of socialism were sent to camps and/or shot. I would find it unsurprising that there were few people voting against socialism; the regime spent such significant time and effort to silence supporters of every other system of government.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  And yet those same critics found themselves at the head of the communist party and executed a coup. This is not an excuse to destroy and society a replace it with whatever you choose against the will of its inhabitants. It's just an excuse for more dictatorial behaviour.
lucian1900 5y ago
I’ve found almost any anti-imperialist or pro-socialist comments get downvoted on HN. It’s not that surprising considering the class character of the site, most are or aspire to be owners exploiting the labour of workers.

l33t2328 5y ago

What country?

sudosysgen 5y ago
In many countries of the Warsaw Pact there was much more support for the continuation of socialism than for free market capitalism, though sometimes a mixed economy as was advocated by Gorbachev was more popular. So it could have been very many.
lucian1900 5y ago
România in my case. Having spoken to many people older than myself, they mostly wanted the west to allow trade, not capitalism. Some listened to Radio Free Europe; some of what was transmitted was clearly false to them, other things were unclear and merely created doubt. Almost all believe that 89 was a US-backed coup, some even recount anecdotes about English speaking men breaking shop windows or filming.