>> there’s no output at all > Hangs!! I hate hangs. I hate them. Crashes give information. Hangs could be so many things, but it is the absence of information.

>> there’s no output at all > Hangs!! I hate hangs. I hate them. Crashes give information. Hangs could be so many things, but it is the absence of information. variants that made me scream include: - misleading information, the kind you can't dismiss as irrelevant, and you go down a thousand rabbit holes that seemingly lead nowhere, but it somehow all ties together into understanding the issue, only after a thousand turns and while keeping the holistic view of it all - useless information. kind of like the one above but every piece of information you get truly leads nowhere Once I had an actual crash that somehow happens before jumping into the program's code (like, before main), but changing your code does toggle the trigger... but when it crashes you have no core and can't attach a debugger, so you're left with debugging on the happy path and constantly think about what could possibly go wrong, and you don't even know what you're looking for. understanding why crt0/ld trips over is not fun.