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Sometimes propaganda is more powerful if delivered in a more neutral and objective tone. Also, historical accounts are more believable when supported by sources
by bayesian_horse 5y ago
Sometimes propaganda is more powerful if delivered in a more neutral and objective tone. Also, historical accounts are more believable when supported by sources and evidence. Otherwise it feels a bit one sided.
The CIA has certainly done some weird and evil shit. Slanted writing like this isn't going to persuade anyone, though.
- luffapi 5y agoThis is literally just a timeline of known historical events. How is it slanted?
- bayesian_horse 5y agoHave you read the first one or two paragraphs?
- luffapi 5y agoYes, and they did us the favor of backing up those paragraphs with detailed research and facts that support their argument. The meat of the content is the documented acts of the CIA.
- elefanten 5y agoBut the narrative spin and rhetoric used are not. This is not an objective, dispassionate round up of the facts. Click around the website. It's a deeply ideological source.
- luffapi 5y agoIf you take issue with the timeline they present, you’re free to post your own fact based argument to refute it.
- Gabriel_Martin 5y ago"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table" In this case the table pounding is in the form of saying it's not dispassionate enough for their high standards.
- legitster 5y agoThe detailed research is all taken from a single source.
- luffapi 5y agoThose are well know historical incidents that are documented with many, many sources. For instance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
- bayesian_horse 5y agoWell, then we have a slightly different view on well-researched, neutrally reported facts. And I somehow suspect you would be absolutely outraged by an equally poorly written summary that has the opposite viewpoint. Just a guess...
- l33t2328 5y agoIt’s slanted in that it’s not clear how the first 5 items are even atrocious.
- porphyra 5y agoIronically the CIA themselves is very good at writing propaganda with a neutral and objective tone. For example Radio Free Asia is generally considered neutral and objective despite its ties to the CIA.
- legitster 5y agoIt's not just the lack of a neutral tone, it's the way that it mixes real facts with (pulled from an ass) motivations. It is completely plausible that the CIA has done really evil things, but with honest intentions of stabilizing regions.
- mytailorisrich 5y agoThe CIA has one motivation: To do whatever was decided was in the interests of the USA at a given moment. Never fall for the PR that the CIA (or any similar agency in other countries) has any altruistic goals like freedom and democracy. Their are simply a tool of the geopolitical power struggle. Sometimes they are best friends with the worst dictators, sometimes they overthrow democratic governments. It does not matter as long as it was decided that the result would be better for the USA (again, that's the same in every country, I'm not attacking the USA specifically)
- bayesian_horse 5y agoGenerally, as a country you're better off when the US is "helping" you, rather than Russia or China.