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I've been using various Linux and BSD flavours as my main desktop OS and also at work for over 15 years now and never had any major issue such as the one you de

by bsd44 5y ago

I've been using various Linux and BSD flavours as my main desktop OS and also at work for over 15 years now and never had any major issue such as the one you describe. So now what are we going to do? How do we decide who is right and who is wrong? I don't understand these types of comments, if an alternative doesn't work for you then you keep using what you were in the first place. There's no problem here. What exactly are you suggesting, that you experienced a problem so it won't work for anyone else?

hughrr 5y ago
The original poster is correct. For some configurations Linux is a complete shit show of pain. And it is not stable over time. I had a nicely working T495 which is apparently officially supported by Ubuntu. Worked wonderfully for ages. Then about 3 months ago a kernel update broke it. It works for about ten minutes then the GPU driver craps itself.
wruza 5y ago
My experience was the same until I started to use off-the-shelf or simply “consumer top” hardware, then it changed. It all shines and then you get a recent laptop or a mobo that aren’t a sped up version of IBM PC/AT or 8259. I also managed a small park of BSD and Linux boxes at work for a while. What exactly are you suggesting, that you experienced a problem so it won't work for anyone else? People can give it a try, but shouldn’t expect that it’s all okay once it shows a wallpaper. Committing to something like OS requires a prior knowledge of operational risks. I think this. — ReactOS in a nutshell: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U6d7E1uKSmg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U6d7E1uKSmg They obviously make fun of it too shamelessly, but suggesting to use it… is it another level of trolling (no offense)?
oblio 5y ago
Do you carefully curate your hardware? Only purchase from a very limited selection and don't use advanced hardware features (biometric authentication, for example)? Those are loaded questions, I'm quite sure I know the answers (yes and yes).
- prometheus76 5y ago
  It's on an older thinkpad. I can't remember the model. When linux blew up and I tried three different variants of linux and they all had different, annoying, time-consuming issues after about a week of use, I threw it in a drawer and got the ad blocker on my router working (which was the main thing I was trying to use linux for on my home network).
prometheus76 5y ago
The point of this kind of post is a counter-voice to the "Hey guys! Linux is desktop-ready now and so much better!" That might be true for some people. It hasn't been true for me every time I've tried out Linux, and I've been giving various flavors a shot since RedHat 2. And trying to find help or documentation for troubleshooting problems in Linux can be an absolute nightmare because of the million flavors and versions of linux and the chains of dependency for all of the different installations. If one person gets lazy (or is on vacation or dies) and doesn't update one specific part of a dependency chain, everything falls apart and good luck finding someone who is having the same problem who documented it in a way that google can bring you to. I'm happy Linux "just works" for you, but that hasn't been my experience.

by bsd44 5y ago

hughrr 5y ago

The original poster is correct. For some configurations Linux is a complete shit show of pain. And it is not stable over time. I had a nicely working T495 which is apparently officially supported by Ubuntu. Worked wonderfully for ages. Then about 3 months ago a kernel update broke it. It works for about ten minutes then the GPU driver craps itself.

wruza 5y ago

My experience was the same until I started to use off-the-shelf or simply “consumer top” hardware, then it changed. It all shines and then you get a recent laptop or a mobo that aren’t a sped up version of IBM PC/AT or 8259. I also managed a small park of BSD and Linux boxes at work for a while. What exactly are you suggesting, that you experienced a problem so it won't work for anyone else? People can give it a try, but shouldn’t expect that it’s all okay once it shows a wallpaper. Committing to something like OS requires a prior knowledge of operational risks. I think this. — ReactOS in a nutshell: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U6d7E1uKSmg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U6d7E1uKSmg They obviously make fun of it too shamelessly, but suggesting to use it… is it another level of trolling (no offense)?

oblio 5y ago

Do you carefully curate your hardware? Only purchase from a very limited selection and don't use advanced hardware features (biometric authentication, for example)? Those are loaded questions, I'm quite sure I know the answers (yes and yes).

prometheus76 5y ago
It's on an older thinkpad. I can't remember the model. When linux blew up and I tried three different variants of linux and they all had different, annoying, time-consuming issues after about a week of use, I threw it in a drawer and got the ad blocker on my router working (which was the main thing I was trying to use linux for on my home network).

prometheus76 5y ago

The point of this kind of post is a counter-voice to the "Hey guys! Linux is desktop-ready now and so much better!" That might be true for some people. It hasn't been true for me every time I've tried out Linux, and I've been giving various flavors a shot since RedHat 2. And trying to find help or documentation for troubleshooting problems in Linux can be an absolute nightmare because of the million flavors and versions of linux and the chains of dependency for all of the different installations. If one person gets lazy (or is on vacation or dies) and doesn't update one specific part of a dependency chain, everything falls apart and good luck finding someone who is having the same problem who documented it in a way that google can bring you to. I'm happy Linux "just works" for you, but that hasn't been my experience.