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You want to ban.....the BBC?

ocdtrekkie 5y ago
I mean, this is an example of where their technology reporting isn't even close to adequate. They're reporting an 11 year old fact as "news", that doesn't actually reflect the reality of today. For a technology-focused community, BBC reporting on technology isn't adequate. And a bunch of blogspam articles have "covered" this "news" as well. I think it's a sign of bad journalism.
- _joel 5y ago
  I agree with your point for the HN crowd reading it but it's not intended to be read by us soley. Yes, there have been some real shockers, I'll grant you that but I have read some decent scientific and some IT articles that do generally capture the specifics and ELI5. I think there's been a shift in the quality of the output, for sure, especitally around politics there too (although that's an entirely different story). Tangentially, I used to work at the beeb a few years back, in a technical department (non journalistic). There's some fantastic people there that are extremely talented and do try to uphold Reithian principles, it's just unfortunately spoilt by others with different motives.
speedgoose 5y ago
I vote for the ban and suggest France24 instead.
bibinou 5y ago
You get karma fast on HN by reposting BBC and Reuters.
ergot_vacation 5y ago
You're still operating under the notion that the BBC is Real Journalism, a grand institution that can be trusted as a source of well-researched, professionally vetted information. This hasn't been true for a long time, and this article is only a mild example of why. Most mainstream news sources have rotted away to being glorified tabloids at this point, and while the BBC may have rotted less, it's still in poor shape.
- chanc3e 5y ago
  Sadly this is true. The BBC is staffed with some truly incredible talent and some of the output is world class - however, the news sub-desks are more or less a few freelancers copy/pasting from Reuters/syndicated news at this point, and articles are certainly not thoroughly vetted. Sheer inertia and brand cachet are carrying the BBC. I'm not sure which outlet is entirely trustworthy in the UK currently.
  - orra 5y ago
    > I'm not sure which outlet is entirely trustworthy in the UK currently. Ahahahahaha. In the past I would have said The Guardian is okay, but right now they really hate trans people.
    - chanc3e 5y ago
      The Guardian seem very lost: chasing the same slice of advertising pie as DM/Telegraph. Channel 4 news are a small team with a heck of a punch - but there is not a lot of daily output.
sschueller 5y ago
BBC = British slanting , RT = Russian slanting , France 24 = French slanting, NYT = US slanting. They all have a slant but if you know you can still read their articles and get something out of it.
- zaphirplane 5y ago
  Slanting is moderately ambiguous, what do you mean? Obviously national news orgs are centric to their country where their readership is. The bbc is hardly a Nationalistic or propaganda or even aligned with the government
kingofpandora 5y ago
I don't think it should be banned but the Beeb is emphatically not a good news source.

I mean, this is an example of where their technology reporting isn't even close to adequate. They're reporting an 11 year old fact as "news", that doesn't actually reflect the reality of today. For a technology-focused community, BBC reporting on technology isn't adequate. And a bunch of blogspam articles have "covered" this "news" as well. I think it's a sign of bad journalism.

_joel 5y ago
I agree with your point for the HN crowd reading it but it's not intended to be read by us soley. Yes, there have been some real shockers, I'll grant you that but I have read some decent scientific and some IT articles that do generally capture the specifics and ELI5. I think there's been a shift in the quality of the output, for sure, especitally around politics there too (although that's an entirely different story). Tangentially, I used to work at the beeb a few years back, in a technical department (non journalistic). There's some fantastic people there that are extremely talented and do try to uphold Reithian principles, it's just unfortunately spoilt by others with different motives.

speedgoose 5y ago

I vote for the ban and suggest France24 instead.

bibinou 5y ago

You get karma fast on HN by reposting BBC and Reuters.

ergot_vacation 5y ago

You're still operating under the notion that the BBC is Real Journalism, a grand institution that can be trusted as a source of well-researched, professionally vetted information. This hasn't been true for a long time, and this article is only a mild example of why. Most mainstream news sources have rotted away to being glorified tabloids at this point, and while the BBC may have rotted less, it's still in poor shape.

chanc3e 5y ago
Sadly this is true. The BBC is staffed with some truly incredible talent and some of the output is world class - however, the news sub-desks are more or less a few freelancers copy/pasting from Reuters/syndicated news at this point, and articles are certainly not thoroughly vetted. Sheer inertia and brand cachet are carrying the BBC. I'm not sure which outlet is entirely trustworthy in the UK currently.
- orra 5y ago
  > I'm not sure which outlet is entirely trustworthy in the UK currently. Ahahahahaha. In the past I would have said The Guardian is okay, but right now they really hate trans people.
  - chanc3e 5y ago
    The Guardian seem very lost: chasing the same slice of advertising pie as DM/Telegraph. Channel 4 news are a small team with a heck of a punch - but there is not a lot of daily output.

sschueller 5y ago

BBC = British slanting , RT = Russian slanting , France 24 = French slanting, NYT = US slanting. They all have a slant but if you know you can still read their articles and get something out of it.

zaphirplane 5y ago
Slanting is moderately ambiguous, what do you mean? Obviously national news orgs are centric to their country where their readership is. The bbc is hardly a Nationalistic or propaganda or even aligned with the government

kingofpandora 5y ago

I don't think it should be banned but the Beeb is emphatically not a good news source.