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> Also: being a software engineer/computer programmer in Europe is not as sexy as it is in USA. It's getting better, yes, but here the "engineer" is the last mo
by game_the0ry 5y ago
> Also: being a software engineer/computer programmer in Europe is not as sexy as it is in USA. It's getting better, yes, but here the "engineer" is the last monkey. Managers and sales are the ones who get the credit. So, European mentality also plays a role here.
Eventually those manager and sales people will learn that they need developers to build stuff, or else they can't manage anyone because nothing has been built or sell products that don't exist.
- abz10 5y agoUnfortunately they are very slow learners and by the time they figure it out a lot of damage has been done.
- gryn 5y agothey found a better alternative called: 'you do the work, I get the pay in your place. win win'. and it's structured in the form of useless middlemen `consulting` companies going by the names of (Atos, Alten, Accenture, ...) finding a job in tech related industries means most probably going through them, and in practice they value business school people and management types way more than the lowly engineer.
- mnouquet 5y ago> Eventually those manager and sales people will learn that they need developers to build stuff The "bourgeoisie" never really figured out they needed workers to run the mines...
- jbverschoor 5y agoWhy would you assume they’d change? They will simply go to non tech companies and “manage “people there
- b20000 5y agoI'm afraid that this is the same in the US.